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Danny Fenton02/11/2018 21:11:08
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Did you get my e-mail with my versions of the formers? I am not saying they are right, but they look like the shape lofts smoothly, which at the end of the day is all we need.
If you need anything at all just shout, or send a pm. That goes for everyone
Cheers
Danny
Martian03/11/2018 11:16:53
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Yes I did thanks Danny , i,m closely studying everyone progress particularly yours . There is a lot of difference between your comers and mine i don't know which plan Dylan used . What i,m going to do is fit the formers build my Airfix fury then pack up or sand as necessary to get the correct shape of at least a good blend . It is frustrating that I can't get a decent workflow going .

Danny Fenton03/11/2018 11:45:14
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Ah yes you had Dylan cut some parts.
Cheers
Danny
Danny Fenton07/11/2018 09:41:43
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I need to ask your opinion regarding the litho plate work intended for the cowls.

As I have got further into the build it is becoming obvious that this model will not be as accurate as I had hoped, and I don't think good enough to compete in a scale comp. It will be a lovely model still, but just not accurate enough for F4B.

With that in mind it might make things a lot easier to forego the litho plate work on the cowl and opt for the much simpler alloy tape route. As I am doing the Nimrod then I just simply need to paint the cowling.

I had comtted to showing you how to do this but I know only a few were going to try it. Can I have some feedback on whether we can drop to the simpler method. I may still show the process but at the moment it is greatly affecting how I approach the cowling area.

Cheers

Danny

Ernie07/11/2018 10:30:02
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Hi Danny

That polished alloy finishis so fantastic, It must be worth giving it a try. I reckon that there are several possibilities. None of them seem easy

1 litho plate...Ive tried this, and it's not so easy to work. Maybe a skilled metalworker could produce the goods, but personally I'd leave it alone

2 mick reeves stick on aluminium. The results on the web certainly look fantastic, I think its time to order a wee bit and try it out

3 aluminium tape. This seems the easiest option. Cheap too.

4 paint. I understand that there are some very good products available. Not B&Q aluminium paint, but highly specialised stuff. Maybe someone has experience of this

Reckon it's time for some experiments

ernie

Tony Bennett07/11/2018 10:30:30
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i will be using tape on mine, so hints on the best way of doing it would be great.

Tony B

martin collins 107/11/2018 10:41:18
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I have a bring and buy Bryant Fury i am refurbing and am interested in the tape method, any advice or links to websites that show it being applied would be helpful.............Martin

Danny Fenton07/11/2018 10:41:18
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Thanks Guys, I can do it in litho and it would give the best results, but is a great deal of work.

Foil/tape will look okay too.

I don't get good vibes on the paint front. Unless it is in camo or painted as in the Nimrod

Cheers

Danny

Andy Sephton 107/11/2018 11:04:45
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I would finish yours in the way you feel is best for your model Danny. As for me, I'm going the Mick Reeves sticky-ali route. I need to experiment first, but it does look good when properly applied. I believe the only issues are that it doesn't do compound curves very well and it requires a hard rub-down, so the ground needs to be hard. i.e not soft balsa.

Martyn K07/11/2018 13:47:29
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I agree with Andy, Danny. Build the model to your own requirements. If you feel you must do a demo then try putting Lith on a hard boiled egg or similar. You wont get any better compo​und curves and if you manage that you will be in even more awe that you are already are..

laugh

To answer your question - yes - I am going down the Lith path mainly because I am clumsy butter and lith is slightly tougher than tape.

Martyn

Danny Fenton07/11/2018 13:54:40
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Litho is not an easy material to work with, but very sattisfying.

Cheers

Danny

Martian07/11/2018 16:21:54
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I'm going down the Ali tape route for the cowl and litho for the sides and blisters on the cowl

Jose L. G.07/11/2018 17:05:14
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I`m open to both systems. Litho and tape. If you don`t mind you can tell us how to work with litho and go away from us.

Jose Luis

Ernie07/11/2018 17:27:04
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Hi all,

I also tend to be sceptical about chrome paint. However, have a look at alsa easy chrome. If its half as good as the pix, its worth a look

ernie

Martian07/11/2018 17:50:11
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Rustoleum chrome is really good but only on a really smooth surface I used it on my Mustang but it needs over spraying after as it tends to rub of

Martian07/11/2018 17:55:38
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Mustang link Rustoleum over Chrome Oracover , the oracover looked to plastic

2W08/11/2018 18:41:39
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Hi Danny,

Much as I would like to try litho plate, I am having enough problems as it is without taking on a new problem altogether. I am beginning to consider changing to a complete paint scheme rather than gilding the lillly and adding extra weight with the litho. It seems to me that adding litho to single curved parts is not too difficult, but something like the cowl is much more demanding.

If you have time to show us how it's done, I would certainly be interested.

William

Stuart Rusby13/11/2018 21:11:56
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I was perusing the Peter Warburg drawings taken from the original Hawker Siddeley Fury1 production drawings (approved by Sidney Camm) and came across the following useful wing info:

Top wing: dihedral 1 degree, incidence 3 degree 20 minutes

Bottom wing: dihedral 3 degrees 30 minutes, incidence 3 degrees 50 minutes.

I shall 'press on' with using litho, I love the really shiny parts of the Fury.

Stuart

Colin Leighfield13/11/2018 21:59:44
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Very handy Stuart.

Jose L. G.14/11/2018 16:58:42
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A pic of a few Furys with tailwheels.

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The tex of the pic.

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