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RAF's Finest Biplane? Hawker Fury MkI

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Stuart Rusby03/12/2019 20:18:49
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Danny, you are a kind lad! I'd love you to make me one... I think you'd deserve at least a double whisky..

Stuart

Danny Fenton03/12/2019 22:25:58
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I don't do whisky I am afraid, beer is fine

PM me your address and I will see what I can do

How urgently do you need it?

Cheers

Danny

Stuart Rusby04/12/2019 20:55:37
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In case anyone has changed their mind about using litho sheets for the Fury this is just to say I still have a number of 30x45 cm sheets available. Send me a PM if you are interested, with your details. They are about 0.15mm thick which I find is ideal for the job.

Stuart

Stuart Rusby06/12/2019 10:25:45
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Your advice again Danny. From Sheet 1 of the plans it would seem as if there is an air gap under the fin when it is glued to the fuselage, above the tailplane. Since the tailplane is at a positive incidence of about 4 degrees this might be there so the incidence can be adjusted. However since the fin and tailplane are glued in place it would be difficult to readjust this incidence. Am I right in that there should be an air gap or perhaps I've got it all wrong!

Stuart

Danny Fenton06/12/2019 11:59:55
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Hi Stuart, the Fury has a very clever way of altering the pitch trim. A threaded shaft runs up the rear of the fin post, it is rotated by a cable from the cockpit. the stabiliser front mount pivots, the rear mount is on a bogey fitted to that threaded shaft, as is the lower bracing strut and upper rigging wire. So the wires, braces and stab trailing edge all can go up and down. So really there should be a gap above and below the stab, to allow it to move. Dennis has taken an easier route and mounted the tail-plane in the full down trim position, ie abutted against the fuselage upper longeron.

This stab gaps necessitates the fin also having a clearance to allow the stabs incidence to alter.

So it looks kind of like this:

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Hope that helps?

Cheers

Danny

Andy Sephton 107/12/2019 07:58:08
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For what it's worth, I'll be mounting the tailplane on my model at zero degrees. I don't believe it necessary to mount it at such a negative angle as that shown on the plan. I'll be relying on elevator control to trim the aircraft.

Tony Bennett07/12/2019 10:53:33
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Mine is not finished and i doubt it will ever be.

the covering is pants and i have lost heart with it.

sorry gents.

Tony B

Stuart Rusby07/12/2019 11:38:47
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Many thanks Danny for your very helpful, and detailed reply. In view of Andy's comment (and he has flown the Fury) is it better to leave out this significant amount of incidence? It does seem rather a lot...

Stuart

Danny Fenton07/12/2019 11:41:21
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Well that is up to you Andy, you have flown the full size. It is possible the 3 views are drawn with the elevator trim all the way in one direction, which could be misleading. To counter that, nobody has complained about the model flying with excessive trim? When I next see Richard Dalgleish I will ask him if his requires much trim.

That is a real shame Tony, can anything be done to remedy the covering? is it going to alter the way it flies? probably not!

Cheers

Danny

Danny Fenton07/12/2019 17:28:12
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I contacted Richard this morning and he said the model, built as per Dennis's plan, flies fine.

So I leave it up to you guys what you want to do. I will be following the plan.

Hope that helps

Cheers

Danny

Stuart Rusby07/12/2019 21:13:25
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Thanks Danny.

Stuart

Stuart Rusby12/12/2019 15:50:59
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On Dennis' plans there is no sign of a forward fin-to-tailplane supporting wire. The photos of the aircraft show two such wires...?

Stuart

Martian12/12/2019 18:26:20
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I have included forward wires on mine

Martian12/12/2019 18:30:00
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Stuart look on page 6 of my build Martians Fury the lower is Ali tube

Stuart Rusby15/12/2019 19:39:59
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Thanks, I will include the missing forward wires.

Stuart

Danny Fenton15/12/2019 22:25:16
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Hi Stuart, I am intending to include the forward wires, bracing on mine too. It looks like the replica that Andy is modelling, does not have the additional bracing. Also of interest is that early versions did not have the removable side sections/panels to the fuselage. Another reason you have to find a subject and take details from that aircraft and not use generic 3 views.

The replica in (Belgium??) also uses pinked rib tapes, the Duxford examples (3) all use torn fabric rib tapes.

Cheers

Danny

Graham Donaldson15/01/2020 18:42:18
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A happy New Year to all you Fury builders. You’ve gone very quiet!

I have made some reasonable progress although there are numerous bits and pieces to sort out. The main problem I have is with the interplanetary struts. I built then as the plan but am finding it difficult to fit them. My plan is to install the rigging which will tighten things up and maybe make fitting the struts easier..

The airframe is complete and covered - I used Sorartex. I have painted it as per the South African Air Force as detailed on the Airfix 1/48th scheme. I brushed Humbrol Matt enamel but would have got a better Finnish if I had sprayed it. The roundals also were sprayed. Not my best finnish.

I will post a picture in due course, but would appreciate any advise regarding the struts in the meantime.

Graham

Graham Donaldson15/01/2020 19:32:34
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I see that predictive text has taken over. Interplanetary should read inter plane and Finnish should read finish!

Graham

Danny Fenton15/01/2020 22:23:58
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Well done Graham, I look forward to seeing the pics. It has indeed been a bit quiet on the Fury front.

I have been sidetracked with a little bit of indoor mania, have designed and nearly built a little Hawker Sea Fury, (does that still count as a Hawker Fury?) 26g so far

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Cheers

Danny

Rem Fodder16/01/2020 00:12:09
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Danny, I watched the brief You Tube overview of the rotary actuator for the ailerons in the Fury. One word, Brilliant!

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