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FrSky X10 - Taranis replacement?

Another interesting new Tx coming from FrSky.

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Chris Bott - Moderator24/07/2017 11:20:12
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FrSky seems to have left these photos lying around on their Facebook page.

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Bob Cotsford24/07/2017 11:51:01
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Pity about the external aerial - I really think this is a mistake. Having got used to the X12 I'd prefer the screen at the top even if it was smaller but I guess that the lower location is needed to get make a more compact case. Obviously it's a Taranis replacement, I wonder why they have left the name off? It's a more modern case style getting away from the 'spares bin special' comments that came from cloning the JR case, but why the aerial?

Peter Christy24/07/2017 12:54:25
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Posted by Bob Cotsford on 24/07/2017 11:51:01:

......but why the aerial?

Because you get the optimum radiation pattern for model flying with the aerial pointing down at the ground, at an angle of roughly 45 degrees. That way the "dead spots" are either behind your head (base of the aerial) or in the ground, about 6 ft in front of you (tip of the aerial) - both places the model should never be!

The area of maximum radiation will be an arc in front of extending from horizon to horizon. Watch the F3C heli boys - they nearly all fly like that for that very reason!

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Bob Cotsford24/07/2017 12:59:07
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Yes Peter, but I (and many) have always left the aerial folded to one side with no ill effects and when it comes to built-in aerials it seems other manufacturers manage it - come to that my Horus manages it ok.

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Andy Meade24/07/2017 13:08:35
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Have been watching the threads on RCG about this one. Looks good, would be nice if I can export models from my Horus on FROs so I can use this as a backup radio yes

Chris Bott - Moderator24/07/2017 13:19:52
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I'd much rather see a physically protected aerial too, maybe inside a handle of some sort.

But I do wonder if having it external is a response to the moaning about the Horus aerial from a tiny minority of users, while there has been nothing but praise for the RF performance of Taranis?

Apart from the aerial, I think this is a good mix of features from X9D, X12 and X7. I'm not sure about the colour schemes, but that's not high on my list of priorities anyway.
Martyn K24/07/2017 13:39:31
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I like the Black and Gold...

I liked the internal aerial on my Futaba T8J, however I also agree that although ergonomically its great but from a radiation point of view there are better locations.

Martin Harris24/07/2017 13:49:07
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I've seen and appreciated the doughnut radiation pattern countless times but theory and practice are different matters where many external factors must come into play. Back in my single aerial module days, I tried flying to extreme range and then pointing the aerial at the model where no effect was noticed - according to theory, my model was doomed!

I suspect far more incidents have been caused by damage to spindly aerials and co-ax feeders than by less than optimum orientation.

Peter Christy24/07/2017 13:54:07
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Bob & Martin:

I never said that pointing the aerial at the model would result in doom - I just said it wasn't the optimum solution. I often point my aerial at the model when flying on 35 MHz as a sort of "early warning" system. I know that if I get a problem, I can immediately remedy it by simply swinging the Tx around a bit. It also tells me to avoid that bit of sky - for whatever reason!

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Andy4824/07/2017 14:06:35
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I can only say having checked the RSSI telemetry after a number of flights with the Horus, the signal strength with the built in aerial is certainly no worse than the Taranis, and in most cases better.

gangster24/07/2017 16:04:12
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Yes the donut theory is dead right. However for total safety I would suggest you don't hold the transmitter, in is out in free space and just to make certain probably best if the aerial is not connected to the rest of the transmitter.

Bob Cotsford24/07/2017 19:27:54
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Posted by Martin Harris on 24/07/2017 13:49:07:

I've seen and appreciated the doughnut radiation pattern countless times but theory and practice are different matters where many external factors must come into play. Back in my single aerial module days, I tried flying to extreme range and then pointing the aerial at the model where no effect was noticed - according to theory, my model was doomed!

I suspect far more incidents have been caused by damage to spindly aerials and co-ax feeders than by less than optimum orientation.

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Ron Gray24/07/2017 20:36:03
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Let's just hope that it's got an easily replaceable battery like my Taranis, not one like my Horus and hope too that the battery lasts a lot longer than that of the Horus!

Devcon124/07/2017 21:46:43
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Well spotted Chris.

I want one .....😍

ChrisB24/07/2017 22:01:06
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I currently have a Spektrum DX9 and have never had any problems but a chap in the club has a Taranis and the general approach seems good, although its a JR 9X in appearance (that I've also got)

But the Horus looks very very nice and the functionality seems good.

ChrisB24/07/2017 22:49:13
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I've got a few large scale 60/80cc 10 channel models. What receiver would I need?

I've read some of the instructions of the various FRSKY Receivers and I don't understand all the modes, settings

What on earth does all this mean??

.1 Compatibility

FrSky V8FR-II 8 Channel 2.4G Receiver

Chris Bott - Moderator24/07/2017 23:10:42
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ChrisB, all of that table is about earlier generations of FrSky kit. All very good stuff but for 10 channels you'd use X series receivers -X4R, X6R & X8R.

These have servo sockets for 4, 6 and 8 channels but they all carry all 16 transmitter channels on their S.Bus port.

There are a number of ways to get 10 or more channels.

You could use say two X8R receivers and bind them so that one gives you Ch1-8 and the other 9-16.

You could use say an X8R to give you 8 channels and add a 4 channel S-Bus decoder configured to give you Ch9-12.

You could use an X series receiver and drive a 16 channel S.Bus decoder.

You could step up into a redundancy setup and use a couple of X series receivers driving one of FrSky's Redundacy Bus units. There are two types of RB unit. They take two 16 channel S.Bus signals and chose the best one. They also have two high current power inputs as well. One is more expensive, and has more features.

ChrisB24/07/2017 23:35:51
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Thanks Chris. So i'd need to use X series receivers.

I'm surprised that they don't do a 9, 10 or 12 channel Rx. Maybe that is something that will come

john stones 124/07/2017 23:47:04
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Yep i like the black/gold one as well, like they've done away with the buttons and got a scroller, any ideas of price ?

Dave Bran25/07/2017 06:24:03
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Posted by Andy48 on 24/07/2017 14:06:35:

I can only say having checked the RSSI telemetry after a number of flights with the Horus, the signal strength with the built in aerial is certainly no worse than the Taranis, and in most cases better.

Which only goes to prove the value of a user based Beta programme as it wasn't always thus and that is why Internet "Information" has to be put into time related sense.

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