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Good News from the BMFA AGM

2018 Nationals confirmed!

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Andy Symons - BMFA18/11/2017 23:27:58
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Peter Jenkins18/11/2017 23:58:23
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The other interesting point was that membership was, as of 17 Nov, down by 366 against last year's total of 35,566. That is less than 1%.

Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator19/11/2017 01:06:05
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Posted by Peter Jenkins on 18/11/2017 23:58:23:

The other interesting point was that membership was, as of 17 Nov, down by 366 against last year's total of 35,566. That is less than 1%.

Not when I went to school it wasn't! wink 2

I make it 1.029% - which is more than 1% - only just admitedly, but it's not less than it is it?


cymaz19/11/2017 06:27:54
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366÷35,566=0.01029072709891x100=1.029072709891% ,come on

Kevin 21619/11/2017 07:46:36
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The BMFA news part of the website also details the annual membership fee - Seniors £34 for 2018.

Percy Verance19/11/2017 08:32:41
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Mmmm, interesting. So, with the shiny new *flagship* centre now up and running, when does the process of raising the BMFA's profile and presumably increasing the membership begin? That was the aim wasn't it?

It'll do not a jot of good sending out leaflets and info to those whom are already members. They need to target the 10000+ (their figures, not mine) plus non club/non BMFA model flyers out there........and they could make a start by contacting those whom haven't renewed their memberships, asking them why.........

Over to you BMFA.......



Edited By Percy Verance on 19/11/2017 09:07:22

Paul Marsh19/11/2017 09:27:21
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Some of those that were lost were probably people who passed away. No new blood is coming into the hobby and people are getting old/passing on.

Just look at the swap meets, they average age of the people there are around the 70 mark, I'm 43 and the youngest one there!

Great news about the Nationals. Yaay!

Andy's link:

BMFA News Page/SMAE-BMFA-AGM-Subscriptions_2018 & Nationals 2018


Edited By Paul Marsh on 19/11/2017 09:31:46

Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator19/11/2017 09:48:51
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Posted by cymaz on 19/11/2017 06:27:54:

366÷35,566=0.01029072709891x100=1.029072709891% ,come on

I agree it's very small Cymaz - but let's get it right! The statement "less than 1%" is absolute, something is either less than or it's not. And in this case, contary to the statment, it's not. So why let an inaccurate statement stand unchallenged? Had the poster said for example "is approximately 1%" that would be true and fine. Some may view it as "nitpicking" - but the original statement is factually incorrect.


flight119/11/2017 10:00:27
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Posted by cymaz on 19/11/2017 06:27:54:

366÷35,566=0.01029072709891x100=1.029072709891% ,come on

Com on Pete it is over 1% where is the engineer in you cheeky

Andy Symons - BMFA19/11/2017 10:19:05
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Great news to have the Nats confirmed so early isnt it!
Pete B - Moderator19/11/2017 10:49:59
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Look on the bright side, Andy - all this off-topic waffle keeps bumping the thread...wink 2


Percy Verance19/11/2017 10:57:12
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But perhaps not so great to lose almost 400 members........

It's the bathful of water once the plug's pulled thing. You don't notice it going down at first.........

Maybe those in the top echelons of the BMFA take showers, not baths?

Edited By Percy Verance on 19/11/2017 11:09:07

J D 819/11/2017 11:02:13
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Not many farmers under 60 to be seen at the market these days either.






Edited By J D 8 on 19/11/2017 11:03:03

Edited By J D 8 on 19/11/2017 11:05:27

Percy Verance19/11/2017 11:22:15
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A very valid point indeed Paul. It is perfectly true that nowhere near enough new blood is entering the hobby, and it is undeniably in slow decline, which is why right from the start I felt the idea of a *flagship* centre was utterly bonkers.

The BMFA's time, funds and effort ought to been directed into enticing new members into the hobby and helping to secure the long term future of the clubs we have now. With the ever escalating cost of living and travelling, fewer and fewer people will be able to afford to travel the distances involved to get to this National Centre. It's About 150 miles or more from me, so how will it benefit me on a regular basis? In any case, 35000 members just aren't enough to sustain this venture long term.


Edited By Percy Verance on 19/11/2017 11:27:57

Andy Symons - BMFA19/11/2017 13:28:08
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Well Percy I believe the NC is already proving you wrong and will continue to prove you wrong. (And me for that matter as I was very much on the fence) the centre is already helping to build relationships which will benefit all model flyers, even that small number that left the BMFA because they are and probably always will be against the NC. NC usage is rising and since opening back in May has steadily risen to the point that it would be useful if we could find extra weekends next year to fit in all the requested bookings.
The extra credibility that having the NC adds to our sport is already showing signs of bearing fruit with some exciting educational opportunities in the pipe line as well as other opportunities..
Members are showing they are prepared to travel to visit either for events or on an adhoc basis just to fly at a fantastic flying site.

The NC is not deflecting efforts away from the other ongong vital work the BMFA does (much of which also benefits non BMFA members too) for example the CEO will be in Helsinki then Cologne this week as part of his ongoing efforts to protect all model flyers from further regulations.

It has been an excellent start and we now have an excellent facility that is and will keep improving and benefit all model flyers, even those that may never visit and are against the project.

Anyway back to the topic. Isnt it fantastic to know that we will be back at Barkston for the Nats and to get confirmation so early?
Broken Prop19/11/2017 14:13:28
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Yes Andy, it certainly is good news!

I have been to the Nationals for many years and it is the highlight of the modelling year for me. When the venue was lost in 2016 I thought that it might be the thin edge of the wedge and that the powers that be had in effect banned us from Barkston Heath for ever.

After all, it is very easy after rescinding permission for one year just to let the status quo prevail. I for one am extremely pleased that the BMFA have been successful in getting us back there again.

I am looking forward to returning to the heath in 2018! Many thanks to the negotiating team from an old fashioned modeller.


Edited By Broken Prop on 19/11/2017 14:14:19

john stones 119/11/2017 15:27:52
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Nats in 2018 ? good, same again with weather please. hot

Numbers have dropped ? Not sure why you highlight a negative. dont know

N.C I had my vote, good luck with it. wink

Just a £1 increase on fee ? Yep I'm good with that. yes

Bath or Shower ? Shower for me. face 1

Keith Lomax19/11/2017 16:12:13
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To put the 366 into perspective:

- 6457 of last year's members did not renew

- 4451 new members (or people who have not been a member for about 20 years) joined

- 1640 people who were past members but not in 2016 rejoined.

The final number is virtually identical to that in 2014 - it goes up or down slightly each year.

Keith Lomax19/11/2017 16:17:12
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Posted by Kevin 216 on 19/11/2017 07:46:36:

The BMFA news part of the website also details the annual membership fee - Seniors £34 for 2018.

You may be interested to know that my original proposal was for the £1 increase to £34. There was a counter proposal from the floor for £3 increase, which I gave my reasons why I thought £1 was sufficient, and the counter proposal was not seconded.

Keith Lomax

BMFA Honorary Treasurer

Andy Palmer19/11/2017 17:37:18
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Excellent news about the Nats I haven't been for a few years, I might have to make the effort again next year.

My wife and I dropped in at Buckminster on Friday, we had a good look round and I had a couple of flights. We were travelling home to Hampshire after a few days in the Peak District and it seemed like an ideal place to break the journey. I was very impressed by what I saw, a lot has been achieved in a short space of time and it's already a brilliant venue. Obviously a National Centre can't be located to suit for all the members for flying but I believe all members (and non-members like Percy Verance) will benefit long-term. The centre is already being used by non-aero-modelling groups which brings in funds and having seen the facilities for myself I imagine that's a side of things that will keep on growing.

I fail to see why non-members are complaining that it won't benefit them on a regular basis...why should it? If they choose to leave that's fine, it's their choice, but they shouldn't complain about something they are no longer involved with, and have never visited. I find it rather amusing that they also comment about a tiny fall in membership when they're part of the fall!

Personally, I will make the effort to visit Buckminster again when it's convenient and I'm happy to know that it's benefitting modellers in general even though I can't be a regular user.

Finally, I'm perfectly happy with the £1 subs increase, I think we get excellent value for money. For £34 we get insurance, a magazine (that I always enjoy reading), and we benefit from all the 'unseen' work that is done with the CAA, EASA etc.

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