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Engine Doctor08/01/2019 10:02:31
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Don't let them get under your skin John. Keep plodding on and get there in the end. You can only do what you can do and a quality product will always be in demand.

Jon - Laser Engines08/01/2019 10:04:41
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Just to clarify the position and bring this to a close the current plan is as follows. Note that the items are to be completed in order.

Return all single cylinder engines to production
Return all single cylinder engines to stock
Maintain stocks
Finish petrol engine development and get them in production
Keep petrol engines in stock
Start phased return of V twins
Return all Twins to production
Return all Twins to stock
Start development of petrol twins

Piers Bowlan08/01/2019 10:32:54
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That should keep you busy for a while Jon, item five on the list has a particular interest for me. Is the GA30 ready for production?

Don Fry08/01/2019 10:40:19
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Lads, these posts are all off topic, not technical issues. Leave John alone, he is as frustrated at we are.

Chris Walby08/01/2019 12:35:36
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Off topic

Personally I have found Jon's support (both Laser engine and airframe/flying) to be excellent and although the web site has said "out of stock" following discussions with him we have come to suitable arrangements.

Laser engines are not the core business of AEG engineering and if anyone who thinks they could make a profit making quality engines is plane deluded. There are hundreds of thousands of pounds of CNC machines manufacturing various parts and Laser engines are fitted in as an when.

My point is that I have not yet finished a model and had to wait for a engine/engines and in fact the opposite.

On topic !

Looks like my Acrowot issue was a combination of old/failing glow plug and changes in climatic conditions.. and a bit of poor tuning by me!

Martin McIntosh08/01/2019 14:09:26
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Regarding not wanting to sell everything to just one customer and leaving the rest frustrated, many years ago I bred tropical fish and would have a sale about every 6 months. On one occasion I had a queue of about a dozen people down the garden, headed by a lady dealer who wanted to buy the lot. I refused to sell her anything on the grounds that I would then have to placate the other eleven who may well go elsewhere next time.

Paul james 808/01/2019 15:02:38
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Posted by Chris Walby on 08/01/2019 12:35:36:

Off topic

Laser engines are not the core business of AEG engineering and if anyone who thinks they could make a profit making quality engines is plane deluded. There are hundreds of thousands of pounds of CNC machines manufacturing various parts and Laser engines are fitted in as an when.

As it would appear that this might have been aimed at my comment relating to manufacturing engines I'll just respond to that.

I've been in the engineering business for a good while now having been involved in design, development and production. I've done quite well from being deluded along the way and have learned that actually making all the parts of ones own product isn't always the way to optimise production and profitability. The thing to be tightly in control of is the design of the product, ensuring that the specifications of each part means that they can be made by anyone with the appropriate equipment. Risking massive investment in owning the manufacturing equipment is not always the way forward on relatively low production rate products. Buying in machined parts and assembling them to arrive at the end product works well for my range of precision gas flow measuring equipment, the same concept could easily be applied to an engine, which is a relatively straightforward engineering product.

I won't bore you with any more of my thoughts as it isn't really truly on topic, merely relevant to your post.

Martin Harris - Moderator08/01/2019 15:27:25
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I'm guessing (and Jon doesn't have to confirm or deny my speculation) that the business model allowing the production of these world class hand built engines at prices affordable to the ordinary modeller depends on using spare capacity of machines run by the parent company. With all the extra involvement of choosing a company with sufficient quality control and pricing of comparitively small production runs, the engines would end up a lot more expensive.

It might make for an interesting discussion with the boss though - put together a business case to move more items at a lower profit margin by going outside and it might help him find some spare production capacity! devil

Former Member08/01/2019 19:02:11
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alan p08/01/2019 19:42:14
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Chaps

Don Fry is correct leave Jon to get on with the job, jumping on his back with suggestions that have possibly already been considered will only result in a small business side line being abandoned as too much aggravation for the returns. Then we shall all be the poorer.

Jon - Laser Engines08/01/2019 20:45:17
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Gents we are quite off track now so if we can bring this discussion to a close it would be appreciated.

I know that all of the comments and suggestions come from wanting Laser engines to succeed and continue to grow. Believe me, i am all for that. Unfortunately things are never as simple as we would like but i will keep pushing to move things forward and, to be blunt, having to explain every move i make is not something i am interested in entertaining. I have neither the time nor the inclination. Suffices to say that Martin more or less has it right and i am the mushroom in the back shed (metaphorically speaking).

On a personal level things are stressful for me at the moment with the loss of my flying club last autumn and having to join somewhere new, I am also trying to get through the minefield that is buying my first house and trying to work out how to 'import' my girlfriend from the USA. Visa's are no fun let me tell you.

With all that lot in the background i will just walk away from posting here if i get too much flak, i just wont have the patience!

But that is a way off. For now i will just call time on this discussion and get back to technical issues.

Thanks all for your constructive input.

Jon - Laser Engines09/01/2019 12:51:31
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Early 2000's model, looks ok on the outside and still supported for spares/serivce.

Gary Spicer 115/01/2019 10:45:56
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Just to follow up on Jon link a page back this is t he Fastrax remote glow fitted to my Laser 70, its a Precision fit and work well.

laser70.jpg

Tim Flyer17/01/2019 10:01:53
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Thanks Gary that’s useful. Some of the other remote glow leads with cranked plug covers don’t fit that well on Lasers. This looks a better design.

Jon - Laser Engines17/01/2019 10:19:24
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Posted by Gary Spicer 1 on 15/01/2019 10:45:56:

Just to follow up on Jon link a page back this is t he Fastrax remote glow fitted to my Laser 70, its a Precision fit and work well.

laser70.jpg

Has your exhaust clamp shed its retaining bolt Gary? it appears to be missing and could cost you an exhaust!

Chris Walby17/01/2019 12:48:03
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Looks good and will be especially useful on my inverted engines like the mossie where I have to start the port engine and then stretch my arm under the nose to unclip the glow starter, then start the starboard engine, if I reach from behind I burn my fingers on the exhaust!

Thanks guys for the lead on this (pun intended).

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Gary Spicer 117/01/2019 14:57:02
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Posted by Jon - Laser Engines on 17/01/2019 10:19:24:
Posted by Gary Spicer 1 on 15/01/2019 10:45:56:

Just to follow up on Jon link a page back this is t he Fastrax remote glow fitted to my Laser 70, its a Precision fit and work well.

laser70.jpg

Has your exhaust clamp shed its retaining bolt Gary? it appears to be missing and could cost you an exhaust!

Thanks Jon, I cant check for a few days, but it looks like it is missing!!

Jon - Laser Engines17/01/2019 15:35:14
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They dont call me hawkeye for nothing

Manish Chandrayan31/01/2019 10:11:52
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Call for help!

Confession!! I am guilty (before some of you choose to berate).

I have some how managed to round off the hex recess on one of the screws that hold the rocker cover on my 150. Current situation being neither a metric nor a SAE allen key is able to get a grip. And no, the keys themselves are fine as they work perfect on the other screw.

Any ideas on how to open the screw that has the knackered hex head ?

Edited By Manish Chandrayan on 31/01/2019 10:12:27

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