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David Davis06/07/2018 05:47:42
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One glance at these pages indicates that this is a hobby which is overwhelmingly of interest to men.

I retired to rural France in 2015. I've been a member of Berry Marche Modelisme for three years . In that time, the club has increased from eighteen members to thirty. Most of the new members are novices and amongst those are four female partners of existing members. Only one of these has her own model, a Seagull Decathlon, but the others are making steady progress flying the club's trainers. Unsurprisingly the youngest female trainee pilots are making the most rapid progress.

The club has a policy of reduced fees for junior members and for those who are unemployed, but female members are admitted for free. However, full adult fees, including insurance with the FFAM, the equivalent of the BMFA, are only 64€ (less than £57.)

The club organises several fund raising events each year and our bank balance is consequently pretty healthy enabling us to subsidise the ladies.

john stones 106/07/2018 06:13:03
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Only one, a few lads bring wives/girlfriends with them.

David Davis06/07/2018 06:14:39
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Posted by john stones 1 on 06/07/2018 06:13:03:

Only one, a few lads bring wives/girlfriends with them.

Ah but do they fly?

john stones 106/07/2018 06:44:24
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Yep the one member flys lecky and multi rotors.

Martyn K06/07/2018 06:49:00
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we have two ladies who fly with us in the UKCAA. Both very competent

Martyn

Don Fry06/07/2018 07:05:18
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In my old club, we had a lady flyer as president of the club.

Cuban806/07/2018 07:18:48
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None in club number 1, but 1 in my second club. So, just one lady among two hundred men. I think a big problem is one of the lack toilet facilities at many club fields, or at least conveniences that can best be regarded as primitive.

Edited By Cuban8 on 06/07/2018 07:19:53

Andy G.06/07/2018 07:25:58
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We have 2, one who flies and regularly places highly in national and international glider events and one who is a member on a technicality, her young son is a member and we don't charge juniors to join. He is our only junior and to avoid us having to have a child protection officer on the committee his mum joined the club and always accompanies him to the patch.

Jon - Laser Engines06/07/2018 08:38:56
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We have two i think. One doing caa drone stuff and the other learning to fly. The latter is transgender and legally a woman so is treated as such within the club.

The greater concern to me at the moment is we have no children in the club and that is not good looking forward

The Wright Stuff06/07/2018 09:06:40
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I keep out of the politics of my club, and I don't have access to any membership list, but I have never seen any evidence of any female members, nor any concern about it...

We have decent toilet facilities, and I believe they would be made welcome - to be honest, I can't explain it other than lack of interest in flying on their behalf...

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kc06/07/2018 11:06:54
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No.

It's a man's hobby!

Gary Manuel06/07/2018 11:17:47
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Posted by David Davis on 06/07/2018 05:47:42:

The club has a policy of reduced fees for junior members and for those who are unemployed, but female members are admitted for free.

I'm all in favour of encouraging female members of all ages to join the hobby.

Is your offer of free membership to female members open to all, or restricted to family members?

If open to all, I'm surprised you haven't had cries of "sexual discrimination".

Edited By Gary Manuel on 06/07/2018 11:19:06

The Wright Stuff06/07/2018 11:18:06
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David, I think my estimate would be even more extreme than that: more like 98% to 99%. How many slots are there at the average model air show, and how many of them are women?

It's not just model aircraft, it's broader than that (model engineering / steam locomotives comes to mind).

For whatever reason, women seem to 'grow out of playing with toys much more than men do'...

Apologies if this wording is flippant - i can't think of any other way of putting it!

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Posted by kc on 06/07/2018 11:06:54:

No.

It's a man's hobby!

And women aren't interested in sport? Yet in my own sports of cycling and sailing as well as football and cricket, which don't interest me, women from the UK are world and Olympic champions as they have been for years. I would welcome more women directly involved in aeromodelling. One of the best engineers who worked in my team is female and was very good at her job (and presumably still is) but her hobby was climbing.

I think one of the things discouraging more female involvement is the lack of toilet facilities at most club flying sites. If my wife come up to our club she prefers that we go in our old campervan because it has a toilet. I'm fairly sure there are no women flyers in our club but I could be wrong.

My wife and I have been members of the national tandem club for a long time. One of its characteristics that differentiate it from a lot of cycle clubs is that the membership comprises a lot of couples and often their young families. It makes for a very civilised and friendly atmosphere at weekend and week long events that I, for one, would welcome in aeromodelling.

Geoff

Tim Flyer06/07/2018 11:24:16
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Sadly no flying female members at my club . We do have decent toilet facilities for both genders which is great when our partners come along for events, but it seems the hobby just doesn’t appeal much to most females. The same goes for kids most of whom prefer computer games these days . Modelling (at clubs)still seems mostly enjoyed by middle aged men. I suppose the main reason for thus is time. Kids also lack time and would need parents to take them to a club etc whereas they can play computers at home. People don’t have the time to put into hobbies until they retire . It’s similar in age profile at many golf clubs although the gender balance is less uneven there as golf clubs tend to have more social events.

Gary Manuel06/07/2018 11:25:11
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Posted by The Wright Stuff on 06/07/2018 11:18:06:

David, I think my estimate would be even more extreme than that: more like 98% to 99%. How many slots are there at the average model air show, and how many of them are women?

It's not just model aircraft, it's broader than that (model engineering / steam locomotives comes to mind).

For whatever reason, women seem to 'grow out of playing with toys much more than men do'...

Apologies if this wording is flippant - i can't think of any other way of putting it!

They don't 'grow out of dressing up' though do they.

I say this not in a misogynistic way, but as an observation of social upbringing. Boys tend to play with machines and girls tend play with dolls.

And on that note, I'll retire from this discussion.

Edited By Gary Manuel on 06/07/2018 11:26:11

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David Davis06/07/2018 11:51:36
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Posted by Gary Manuel on 06/07/2018 11:17:47:
Posted by David Davis on 06/07/2018 05:47:42:

The club has a policy of reduced fees for junior members and for those who are unemployed, but female members are admitted for free.

I'm all in favour of encouraging female members of all ages to join the hobby.

Is your offer of free membership to female members open to all, or restricted to family members?

If open to all, I'm surprised you haven't had cries of "sexual discrimination".

Edited By Gary Manuel on 06/07/2018 11:19:06

The free membership is open to all women and girls.

We have another category of members, "Friends of Berry Marche Modelisme." These are non-flying members of the club. I'm not sure what they get for their 20€ but there have been a few people, both men and women who have paid the subscription.

As for sexual discrimination, the French have a way of ingnoring the legislation when it suits them!

kc06/07/2018 13:24:49
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We cannot have cheap 'social' members in our clubs because the BMFA requires 100 percent BMFA membership in it's member clubs which ups the price by the BMFA subs!

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