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Stephen Jones17/07/2018 21:35:10
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Have you seen this Tandem wing plane by Opener.

Could it be the next personal transport of the future.

It does not look to difficult to make as a model.
Geoff S18/07/2018 00:40:05
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I need some convincing that this is real. There's no problem with the control system (at least the s/w is probably no more complex than that in sophisticated quads) and of course the electric motor isn't a problem at all. The biggest problem (like electric cars) is the energy store ie the battery.


Nigel R18/07/2018 10:32:02
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No, the biggest problems are not technical. Safety, reliability, affordability, regulations, training of potential drivers pilots. Ultimately I think the general public's lassaiz faire attitude towards motoring safety and preparedness and maintenance doesn't translate very well to aircraft of any sort.

A man carrying quad, well, that is already possible. As it goes, personally, I can't see light helicopters carrying on for that much longer when quads can do what they do cheaper, with redundancy of various critical bits, and with more autonomy of control.

Former Member18/07/2018 12:19:39
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Max Z18/07/2018 12:46:41
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Posted by Geoff Sleath on 18/07/2018 00:40:05:

I need some convincing that this is real.

Same here. Notice that nowhere in the video you see a person climbing into the craft and taking off with it.


Edited By Max Z on 18/07/2018 12:48:07

Peter Miller18/07/2018 13:45:15
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On a similar suject. In the last few days I heard about a quadcopter type vehicle that was lifted andf propelled by electric motors but the electric power was generated by a gas turbine.

Stephen Jones18/07/2018 17:17:29
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Boy and i thought you guys where good and checking up on things.

i Even gave you the name of the company involved Opener.

So here is their webb site Opener


Geoff S18/07/2018 18:07:36
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I suppose that web site was to make me even more unconvinced Which it certainly did.


Ian Jones18/07/2018 18:37:54
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If we can't just chuck a model in the air without regulation then these chaps will really be up against it.

It'll never take-off wink 2

Former Member18/07/2018 18:43:03

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Chris Channon18/07/2018 18:48:03
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Have to say, i would be the first in the queue, brilliant idea.
Have a good day
Chris. C.
Don Fry18/07/2018 18:51:56
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So this thing, from their website, has a range, (their claim, so certainly won't be more) of 8 miles. Impressive.

Nigel R19/07/2018 09:01:05
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Looks like they are claiming to squeeze it through the door of being an ultralight single seat "unregulated" thingummy. No license required in the states to legally buy one and fly.

Hence the poor range - I guess if it had a good size battery you'd need a license, presumably a rotary wing type, massively increasing the cost. I'm not sure what sort of full size license applies to multirotors. If you want proper scary, take a look at homebuilt ultralight helicopters. No license, no build inspection, no chance of autorotation...

Dave Cunnington19/07/2018 11:01:07
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Did anyone see the flying bath tub ?

Don Fry19/07/2018 14:23:35
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There is a potential for these things. So we get told. So dreamers, and serious players have a dabble. The dreamer hopes to become the new Henry Ford. The players don't want to become last months flavour.

So they all do one, and the press, being bone idle, reports the news

I have yet to see an article, announcing 1000 sales of any of them.

Gary Manuel19/07/2018 16:34:01
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There was an article on the BBC news today about the KittyHawk flying car. They also mentioned that Aston Martin and Rolls Royce were getting in on the act. There's obviously commercial interest in it.

THIS article on the BBC website includes details of training for flight - a 90 minute course.

cymaz19/07/2018 17:21:43
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Posted by Percy Verance on 18/07/2018 18:43:03:

It's a non starter for several reasons. We have 30 odd million cars in Britain, and if just 20% of that number were to convert to flying cars, then just imagine the air traffic control chaos it would create. And where would they all take-off and land?

Not going to happen.

That Robinson bloke in the US produced his bargain basement helicopter. He sold a fair number, but it hasn't swamped the market.

Edited By Percy Verance on 18/07/2018 18:43:39

And all below 400’....wink. I guess not!

Don Fry19/07/2018 17:22:56
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Yea, the one we saw today, 10 propellers and the pilot is sitting in the death arc if any decide to let go.

After you trying that one out.

And a 90 minute flying course. we have had NIMBY. Now I must invent one. NOMH ( not over my head).

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