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Martin Fane19/10/2018 11:17:27
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Hi Danny

Thanks, so ref my photo, my F6 does not match my plan.

Compared to your F6 part and your plan is cut part or plan in error ?

ie should F6 be wider than mine is cut ?

Keeping failthlaugh

Danny Fenton19/10/2018 11:24:47
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Does adding dimensions to my part and plan help?

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Cheers

Danny

Martin Fane19/10/2018 14:51:26
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Hi Danny

thnaks for taking the time to check.

Looks like my cut rart is incorrect. The internal dimension is OK.

Its the outside dimension and shape that is incorrect.

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Has anyone else got this problem or am I missing something here crook

Richard Mallam.19/10/2018 18:21:42
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Hi Martin, regarding your tail par pictures, what sort of hinges are you using, or is the structure just taped for the photo - difficult to see. Thanks Richard

Richard Mallam.19/10/2018 18:30:05
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Sorry, above should read 'tail pictures', not sure where the par came from...!

Martin Fane19/10/2018 19:39:05
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Hi Richard

Tail hinges are metal pinned, similar to what the plan shows. I have removed the hinge pins and used a length of piano wire to get all three hinges aligned.

The tape is just to keep everything together prior to fixing the hinges.

cheers

Martin

Martin Fane24/10/2018 09:38:22
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Moved on to the fuselage side formers. seem to have the same issues as other builders

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Seems a mismatch between F3, FS2, F4 and FS3 (LHS) and FS4 (RHS)

Best solution seems to be to reshape FS2 ? and build up FS3 and FS4 ?

F7 and back seem OK

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I wonder if getting the upper forward fuselage shaped / sheeted might help get the side shape correct, certainly from F2 to F1, should be started something like this ?

front fuselage formers.jpg

I think we are all going to have slightly different shaped fuselages sad

Decided to leave to one side for now and move onto something easier..........

But came across an anomaly with the shape of F2 upper and F3

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My take on the plan is that F2 and F3top should have the same profile and have the 1/8 sheeting around them ?

Strange as the gun troughs line up. Am I missing something ????

F4 top and F5 seem OK

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Oh by the way, yes I installed the forward crossgrain peices incorrectly - not cross grained but grain running longways - not sure of the consequences ???

Ah, the joys of building from a plan crying

Martin Fane24/10/2018 14:48:33
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Bit more studying of the plan.

I think I can see now why the mismatch with F2 and F3 upper - from F3 upper backwards is all skinned over with 1/8 sheet. But forward of F2 is not skinned, it uses block balsa which is shaped to the top outline of F2 and F1. smiley

FS3 and FS4 seem too small because the stringers protrude from them by about 1/8 inch so accounting for the apparent mismatch at the cross grain sheet area. It makes more sense when you look at the stringers and the sheet in the area of F7 to F8.

I think I need to start fitting the rear area stringers to in order to get the correct shape going towards the front of the fuselage sides.

So just the mismatch at FS2 to resolve crook

Martin Fane24/10/2018 17:01:58
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Fitted some of the rear fuselage stringers. the photo makes these look a bit wonky, they're not - honest wink

With these installed it starts to become clearer how the formers and sheeting will take shape around the cockpit area. You can also see a test install of a peice of sheet at F7 - F8.

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and the start of the forward fuselage upper sheeting support structure

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Edited By Martin Fane on 24/10/2018 17:03:23

Richard Mallam.24/10/2018 17:19:43
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Hi Martin,

Many thanks for your reply re tail plane hinges, now bought and ready for installation. On another point, I thought that I saw on one of the threads, that you had decided to add webbing to the spars in the main wings, but cannot seem to find your comment now. Am I correct and if so, what was your reasoning?

Cheers,

Richard

Martin Fane24/10/2018 17:22:38
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Richard

Not me, I have'nt started the wings yet - was it Andy Sephton ????

Edited By Martin Fane on 24/10/2018 17:23:27

Edited By Martin Fane on 24/10/2018 17:40:33

Richard Mallam.24/10/2018 18:36:37
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Martin, it was late last night, so not sure where I was on the site! Thanks anyway.
Danny Fenton30/10/2018 18:08:57
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Hi Martin sorry I missed these posts. Yes you have figured out how at some points the former sits on the surface then in other places it is sheeted over.

I am struggling again with that blessed F6, It really does seem to be too big, if you lay a thin strip of balsa along the formers F6 bulges dramatically!

Still investigating though

Cheers

Danny

Martin Fane04/11/2018 16:20:33
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Hi All

Playing catch up this weekend.

Rear stringers and the bottom longeron added. I've fitted the stringers flush at F11 (is this correct) and proud by an 8th at the forward frames to match the 1/8th skin. Left a couple uninstalled at this point to allow a bit of access for controls.

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Cabane area prepared for skinning, took teachers advise and added some extra skin support

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And skinned

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Fitted the new F6 and reshaped FS1, 2 and 3. A first side fueslage plank installed to check alignment. All looks good - thanks Danny yes

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Trying to decide between tail skid or wheel. I dont actually have a full size subject to base this on but I think a Mk1 could have either ? question

Planking this evening...............

Danny Fenton04/11/2018 16:34:08
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Well done Martin, your centre section looks much straighter than mine, that extra support seems to have done the trick.

I don't think a tail-wheel is normal on a MkI but clearly the Duxford MkI has one. it looks as though it's come straight of a Hurricane MkI. Depends how accurate you want to make it.

Cheers

Danny

Martin Fane04/11/2018 17:00:39
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Skid it is then smiley

john stones 104/11/2018 18:02:43
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Beautiful work Martin. yes

McG 696904/11/2018 18:39:02
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Indeed, absolutely superb, Martin.

It seems Danny's 'updated' fuse side parts and F6 did the trick then. Great. yes

Cheers

Chris

Martyn K05/11/2018 10:22:37
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Beautiful work Martin

How did you do the gun troughs?

Martyn

Martin Fane05/11/2018 11:27:54
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Hi Martyn

Gun troughs are card at the moment. may replace with lithoplate later.

cheers

Martin

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