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Are there any kits for “Classic” F3a style flying

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Stuart Z06/08/2018 20:33:21
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Is there a list of models available still, in kit form, that are suited to this style of flying?

I’m aware of the Gangster, and the ones from Cloud models, are there any others? I have O.S. 46SF and O.S. 55AX earmarked,

I’m looking to start back flying aerobatics to a schedule.

Any advice appreciated.


Colin Carpenter06/08/2018 21:05:14
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Have a look at Sebart's kits. Colin

Peter Christy06/08/2018 21:11:26
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Depends what you mean by "classic", Stuart! To me, classic means pre-1970, but everyone has their own definition - depending on when they were born, I guess.

BelAir do a range of classic aerobatic models from the 60s. I made a KingPin (1963) a couple of years back. They also do the Taurus (THE classic aerobatic model!) as well as Chris Olsen's Upset. They also do the MoonGlow and Tempo as well as some other "intermediate" aerobats from that era.


The KingPin is obviously very "Taurus" influenced, but probably an easier build than an original Taurus. Many of these models were designed for a 49 or 61, but that was in the pre-Schnuerle port era, and a modern 45 will have comparable output to an "old", cross-flow, 61. It flies well, and of course is a lot lighter than the original as it doesn;t have to carry 2lbs worth of radio gear around!

Video of the KingPin maiden flight here:

Hope this helps!



Martin McIntosh06/08/2018 21:20:43
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Stu, join the UKCAA for all your info and look at their website. My era too.

Stuart Z06/08/2018 21:29:23
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Thanks for the feedback - yes I’ll be joining the UKCAA shortly. I wanted to get an idea of some models first as I don’t have anything suitable at the moment.



Stuart Z06/08/2018 21:29:23
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Thanks for the feedback - yes I’ll be joining the UKCAA shortly. I wanted to get an idea of some models first as I don’t have anything suitable at the moment.



Whoops, not sure how I did that?



Edited By Stuart Z on 06/08/2018 22:01:23

Old Geezer06/08/2018 23:27:06
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Quite like the look of the Kwik Fly 3 too - still working out how to download the plans from Outerzone though (my IT skills are beyond poor) and as I have a 40 looking for a home the KF3 looks to be perfect. No doubt if I had the plans I could get a rib pack etc. without much trouble. Advice anyone?

Martyn K07/08/2018 07:26:38
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Hi Stuart

What do you mean by 'kit'? Do you mean a traditional Built up model using wing ribs or foam cores or something ready assembled that just needs fitting out?

UKCAA classic era is pre 1996. There are many plans available for models from this period, but unless you can hunt down an MK kit then there isnt very much,

There is the PB Models (now Cloud I think) Bullet and Tornado and there are some cottage industry manufacturers in the USA who offer a number of classic kits as well:

SPA Link

I have often wondered whether there would be any benefit to the UKCAA CADing up a few popular designs - like the Loaded Dice and other UK designers models and providing short kits, in much the same way that I have done for the smaller Kwik Flis and the Mystic. These could then be ordered on demand with about a 4 week lead time.

Need to keep away from the Prettner range though as Hanno's model flying estate - including the rights to commercialisation - is currently up for sale.


Charles Smitheman07/08/2018 07:58:33
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Here is an uncommon one:

Lady Luck, Chris Sweatman's model from Cape Town. Flown at world champs in the sixties I think.

Available as Epoxy glass fus and foam cores, apparently.

Getting it here from CT might be a challenge!

Robert Welford07/08/2018 09:08:40
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Kit for Newman Precision Loaded Dice 60S


Wolfgang Matt Super Star


Nigel R07/08/2018 10:22:24
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Not really a kit, but -

Chilli Wind article & plan were listed on Outerzone recently; full size plan still available from Sarik. Ideal match for piped 46. Foam wing & tail used to be available, maybe one of the other UK suppliers could sort out a set. Fuselage is easy to build.

Edited By Nigel R on 07/08/2018 10:23:18

Richard Wood07/08/2018 10:27:52
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The SIG Kougar is another old design that flies very well that is still around
as a builder's kit.
Be wary of heavy, hard balsa in some SIG kits though.
As mentioned, the Bullet is a good choice.

Edited By Richard Wood on 07/08/2018 10:28:15

Richard Wood07/08/2018 17:15:59
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A Kougar would be a great match with your OS 55AX, or a Bullet with your 46.thumbs up

Willyuk07/08/2018 18:21:18
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you could also look at the Kosmo3 or 4 from mantua models, it is very reasonably priced and available from a couple of UK stores. Beware though the instructions are only in Italian

Martin McIntosh07/08/2018 19:22:03
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Probably more intelligible than Chinglese then!

Richard Wood09/08/2018 13:48:55
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