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Colin Leighfield20/02/2019 22:15:57
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While we are musing, here is a factory drawing of the proposed (Fury) Monoplane that preceded the Hurricane. You could never make a competition model of it because the original was never built, but it would still make a very interesting and quite easy project.dcf93b18-538f-468d-8cc9-6b8ce68732e4.jpeg

Danny Fenton21/02/2019 10:19:06
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Thanks chaps, doesn't look like there is much to go on regarding the shape of the radiator, I will use the side profile and get creative.

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Managed the cappings on the upper centre section, will flip them over and do the undersurfaces.

Cheers

Danny

McG 696921/02/2019 11:56:44
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Hi again, Danny.

Here's a picture - not that great, unfortunately - of the Spanish Fury 4-1 from 1936 at Guadaljara.

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I hope the 'silhouette' of the rounded pod could be of help when you're getting 'creative'... wink

I have a few .pdfs with historical docs regarding the different Spanish Furies (including the '4-4' one). If you decide to go that route, just let me know and I can mail them.

Cheers

Chris

Danny Fenton21/02/2019 13:51:16
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One lower panel now complete, just the underside of one panel remains, I better savour it

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Cheers

Danny

Danny Fenton21/02/2019 13:55:50
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Thanks Chris, anything you have would be greatly accepted. I am thinking of doing Fury IIA No 33 Yugoslav Air Force.

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Cheers

Danny

McG 696921/02/2019 15:02:06
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No probs, Danny. Most docs I have are Spanish related, but could be of help with a Yugo one.

Could you please send me a PM with your e-mail address. I lost that too when the old laptop went 'west'.

Cheers

Chris

McG 696921/02/2019 20:20:01
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... email sent, Danny.

Cheers

Chris

Danny Fenton22/02/2019 10:29:10
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Thanks Chris, all interesting stuff

Well the hinge tubes in the wing is a good idea but the jigs were not. So with quite a lot of struggling I was able to remove them without any damage to the wing.

I don't feel comfortable using hinges individually, and as those who have followed my builds will attest I like to run piano wire down ALL of them to get them alligned. Not easy with this wing layout. So I am still moving forwards gently by building the ailerons and seeing how it pans out. I have created a rod for my own back by going down the RDS route, however there is still time to adopt the direct horn approach as Andy has. I will leave it up to you as to how you proceed?

anyway for now I will stick to the RDS plan....

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Cheers

Danny

Danny Fenton22/02/2019 10:46:46
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Has anybody checked the size of the ailerons compared to three views? The chord seems excessive?

Ah well it is what it is......

Martin Fane22/02/2019 11:23:21
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Hi Danny

Why have you removed the tubes ?

Danny Fenton22/02/2019 11:25:27
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Hi Martin, my jig was not accurate, or rather the way I used it.... I will fit the hinges to the aileron, it is easier to get them alligned, then slide the aileron and hinges on to the wing still using the tubes.

Cheers

Danny

McG 696922/02/2019 11:44:30
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Most probably a very daft question, Danny... but weren't the supplied fiber glass parts not supposed to become the aileron hinges?

With their screw/nut fixation, they possibly could be used leaving enough room for your RDS rod, I presume.

Must have been missing a 'step' somewhere... together with a bunch of grey neurons, I'm afraid.

Cheers

Chris

Danny Fenton22/02/2019 13:32:22
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Hi Chris no you are not missing anything, just my scatterbrain head, I am still at two and sevens over this not being a truly scale model, it leaves me doing neither one thing nor the other. You will have to excuse the chaos

Anyway when I started looking at the wing I decided I didn't want the struggle I had with the Chipmunk hinges. with all the trial fitting of the ailerons those nust got done up and undone so much and it was fiddly. And that was with the hinges accesible under the wing. These are buried in the aileron leading edge!!

So I have opted for Robarts with extender tubes.

Chris the hinges will work fine, even with RDS, I am just not up to fiddling with the 10BA nuts, bolts, and washers.

Cheers

Danny

Danny Fenton22/02/2019 15:40:50
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looking more at the ailerons I decided if I am going off piste, then I ought to don a hoodie some decent shades and go for it.

The ailerons are the wrong shape, and they are made from half a tree, wasteful and heavy. I like to use air where I can. So using the aileron profile I made a sort of frame outlining the shape I want. I used some really soft almost white balsa. I had considered foam but this has worked well.

The pictures should explain the idea, and the result!118.jpg

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Firstly I added a strip of 19x 3.5mm balsa (1/8) x under the 1/16 core overlapping by 3.5mm (1/8) Sorry for the mixed numbers, but the wood and my ruler are are different blush

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Another oice of 3.5mm was added above, to the front of the aileron leading edge, 8mm x 3.5mm

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The leading edge was then sanded and a chamfer added. Then another piece of 3.5mm to form the leading edge.122.jpg

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once the edges were rounded a little, the fit was tested

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Now the upper surface of the aileron is tightly shrouded against the wing. I will have to slide some sandpaper in and ease the fit as it actually touches at the moment, they are much lighter than solid block. I am well pleased with that.

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The shrouded effect is equally nice on the underside. I have still to add the lower ribs to the aileron, but leaving them off until the end kept everything flat to the board-ish

Cheers

Danny

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Danny Fenton22/02/2019 17:14:07
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So rest of the ribs and capping strips, upper and lower added.

A quick sanding and it looks pretty good, need to make the slots for the hinges to poke through and cut a section for the RDS "box".

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Might do the other aileron first, see if I can make a matching set

Cheers

Danny

Tony Bennett22/02/2019 21:30:36
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lovely work as usual Danny.

the master strikes again.

Tony B

Danny Fenton22/02/2019 21:55:27
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Thanks Tony

Danny Fenton24/02/2019 15:09:30
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There is surprisingly quite a lot of work in the ailerons, but managed to make a second that looks similar to the first And yes I have a left and a right, though it was touch and go for a while

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Cheers

Danny

McG 696924/02/2019 17:14:30
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Amazing skills, Danny.

But then I guess that's what taking you to the level of Mastership... cool

Cheers

Chris

Danny Fenton24/02/2019 20:02:04
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Thanks Chris, should have been easier than the first however even with bits already cut I still got a part wrong and had to re do one bit.....

Anyway thought I had better take a look at the RDS installation.

If you are not familiar with RDS, I showed all about it in the scale column last month, you didn't miss it did you?

First I made a couple of what I call top hat sections on the lathe, these are just 20 mm outer section and 10 mm inner. a 3 mm tapping for an allen threaded stud. this clamps a 2.5 mm piano wire rod which when twisted operates the control surface.

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I also made a mount for the servo, and positioned it in the wing. No glue yet, the servo/push-rod and bend in the piano wire has to fall exactly on the hinge-line for it to work properly. So everything is loose for now.

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A bit stuck now as I have lost my strip of mellamine worktop edging to make the box, might have to order more

Cheers

Danny

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