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Danny Fenton05/11/2019 14:38:07
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Thanks Manish you are quite right, though tbh I have just abraded with a wire brush, not had oxidisation or discoloration of joints many years later, so not sure if this is as a result of the type of flux used?

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Danny

Danny Fenton05/11/2019 16:16:25
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This blessed Fury is quite confusing when it comes to assembly. Do you cover before attaching, do you fit joiners as I have (will probably regret). Its chicken and egg with the entire rear end with the way the fin post fits.

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I have loosely fitted the elevators to the tail-plane, to align them. and epoxied the joiner. This will create a delicate assembly which I will then cover. The false horns, fit before or after covering, bit of a sequence puzzle this one.

Ah well we will plod on.....

Cheers

Danny

Danny Fenton05/11/2019 18:39:43
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Okay cup of coffee and engage staring at the model mode. I can't be the only one that does this?

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Danny

Colin Leighfield05/11/2019 19:11:52
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When it looks that good you can be excused.

Martian05/11/2019 20:18:51
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yep I often do that and it can go on for days that and staring at the plans as if they are some weird foreign language

Danny Fenton05/11/2019 21:46:06
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Well as difficult as it was i needed to drag myself away from un-productive work and crack on.

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I found a nice long piece of quality carbon and made up an elevator push-rod.

The push rod is scuffed up internally at the ends, and 3mm rod glued in with JB Weld. The rear clevis is a 3mm version.

This is all with a view to get the tail end all buttoned up.

Next I will look at the alloy tubes for the dummy elevator cables, and make a new rudder horn as I have managed to misplace mine, oh the shame.... I blame Martian!

Cheers

Danny

Edited By Danny Fenton on 05/11/2019 21:48:08

Edited By Danny Fenton on 05/11/2019 21:52:28

Danny Fenton06/11/2019 09:50:22
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Well Martian really has started something. I was chatting to Martin Fane at Gaydon, and he pointed out that I should really not have fitted the rigging wires to the centre section without having the upper wing CS attached. I said that I had made sure there was no tension. When I did fit the upper Centre section he was right, the rigging had distorted things. The Rigging wires at the front were removed, as they are causing the problems. I will refit them with the upper wing CS attached.

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And of course another opportunity for coffee and staring

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Cheers

Danny

McG 696906/11/2019 09:59:32
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... if you allow me, Danny.

I don't really know regarding "staring" (at toy-planes, I mean), but for sure too much '"coffee" isn't good at all for your health... wink

... and, don't forget to clear the desks for you Sabre build... devil

Cheers

Chris

Danny Fenton06/11/2019 10:21:06
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Shhhh.... don't tell anybody that I am doing a Sabre

Yes must step away from the coffee

Just debating what to do next, I want to break out the tissue/polyester and dope......

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Danny

McG 696906/11/2019 10:39:55
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No worries, Danny.

I won't tell any living soul about your F-86... angel

I think you deserved some 'reward' time now, so let's have some "tissue/polyester".

By the way, is "dope" legally okay in UK? ... surprise

Cheers

Chris

Martian06/11/2019 15:37:20
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Ha ha ha haaaaaa (evil laugh ) i fitted mine after fitting top wing mind you was that the Fury or the Bleriot or the boat on i don't remember . I also have a Sabre F86 to build but mine is 3d printed .

Chris of course dope is legal how else will we cope

Edited By Martian on 06/11/2019 15:37:51

Danny Fenton06/11/2019 21:09:49
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Mmmmmm the thought of doping is keeping me pushing onwards. Didn't manage so much today, but a little everyday keeps the motivation.

I made the two sections for the tail end, I couldn't see any reason not to fit them. I removed a fair bit of the wood as this was medium hard balsa. I wanted to be able to access the elevator horn and the tailwheel for maintenance. The gaps will be covered with removable litho panels eventually.

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The plan shows windows through which the 1/16 ply anchor points for the tail struts are evident. How have others done this?

Cheers

Danny

Martyn K06/11/2019 21:37:55
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That really does look lovely Danny

It makes it all worthwhile doesn't it..

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Danny Fenton06/11/2019 21:51:44
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No

Martian07/11/2019 12:30:57
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As far as the tail strut is concerned I cut a rectangle out and bonded a ply plate behind and the forward strut I used the ali tube that I had fitted for the tail skid pivot point

Danny Fenton08/11/2019 00:39:26
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Thanks Martian

I didn't get much done this evening, but I did add this lot. Several meters of 0.8mm carbon rod.

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Before adding the rod, I sanded the balsa stringers so that they tapered to the outside. The effect of the carbon rods is to make the covering really sharp along the stringers. I know this sounds silly and a lot of work, but I really think the effect is subtle, but striking. When the model is covered you will see.

Cheers

Danny

Danny Fenton08/11/2019 12:35:51
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It looks like the underside of the upper wing CS has to be covered and painted, then fitted to the Centre section before covering the top. A bit of a faff. Anyway I sealed the edges of the wing CS where the cabane struts pass through, so that the covering has somewhere secure to rest on. I may make litho plates to tidy up the holes at a later stage.

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I think I will make some 1/64th ply end ribs for the wing joints, would be more hard wearing.

Cheers

Danny

Edited By Danny Fenton on 08/11/2019 12:36:56

Danny Fenton08/11/2019 14:46:08
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ordered some replacement carbon rod last night from Hyperflight. It was with me in this mornings post. I am not sure how they can pack and ship quite so fast, very impressive indeed. This is 11 x 1.75mtr of .8 carbon rod to replace my dwindling stocks.

I also received the 19mm neoprene cord for the tyres, makes a wheel of just under 5" against the ply disks that Martin drew up. Should be closer to 4" so we may have to have a play.

I have added a double layer of .8 carbon rod to the trailing edge of the centre section. The trailing edge was then sanded til flush. I will do the same for the wings. Just gives a sharper and more ding-proof edge.

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Cheers

Danny

Danny Fenton08/11/2019 15:58:06
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Following a quick chat with Martin F, he explained that the larger disks were actually for the spinner back-plate, which made sense and explained the larger central hole. The other disks were for the wheels. The small disks are for the axle area. So armed with this new information I assembled the wheels as per Martins instructions. With 245mm of the neoprene cord wrapped around tightly this gives a wheel/tyre of a little over 4", just right.

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Cheers

Danny

Danny Fenton10/11/2019 22:17:15
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A few little jobs completed today.

Anchor point for the tail-plane struts, just a short piece of 1/4 hardwood dowel.

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Managed to fit the stern-post and work out how that integrates with the fin. I couldn't understand the reason for the wider section, and in the end sanded it to match the rear of the fin crook I am sure it will be fine.

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I also looked at the tail surface and filled in either side of the hinge slots, to give a larger surface to glue to.

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I tissued the underside of the top wing centre section, as this has to be compete on the underside, fitted before the upper surface can go on. Because of the three part wing the outer ribs needed to have been much stiffer to resist the tissue, and later silk, distorting the ribs and pulling them out of shape. I have added some bracing to hopefully eliminate some of this, however the full size doesn't exactly have perfect joints in this area either.

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I added .5mm carbon rod to the trailing edges of the rudder and elevators, hopefully making them slightly more ding proof, and to allow a sharper edge without being weak..

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I then tissued the rudder, seemed a shame not to as I had the brush out

Cheers

Danny

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