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Danny Fenton03/06/2020 12:26:00
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Sanded the struts after spending all evening adjusting the length again.

Covered in tissue and several coats of dope before sanding and priming with P88 high build primer/filler

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Cheers

Danny

Danny Fenton03/06/2020 14:16:34
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Always amazes me how good a finish you can get with just tissue and dope

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Cheers

Danny

Danny Fenton03/06/2020 17:47:48
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In a quandary what to do next, so while thinking about that I have been sanding the rather super spinner Chris printed for me.

Lots of rings, but copious amounts of filler primer is getting it into great shape.

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Just hit it with another heavy coat.......

Cheers

Danny

Eric Robson03/06/2020 22:15:43
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Posted by Danny Fenton on 03/06/2020 14:16:34:

Always amazes me how good a finish you can get with just tissue and dope

Cheers

Danny

Its all in the preparation, you only get out of it what you put in. That's how your struts are better than mine, I spend more time at the field. Now the weather has gone back to normal I will make the effort to push on with mine

Cheers Eric.

Danny Fenton04/06/2020 13:03:39
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Martyn K04/06/2020 13:36:34
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Looks a bit starved horse to me Danny

laugh LOL

Only kidding

Martyn

Danny Fenton04/06/2020 14:15:20
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You are not funny Martyn wink 2

Danny Fenton04/06/2020 18:30:12
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more blah blah blah......

Can't believe this is picture 656

Not sure I will do another blog on here, this is hard work....

Martyn K04/06/2020 20:33:01
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Is that grey primer Danny?

Gary Clark 104/06/2020 20:36:47
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Its hugely appreciated though Danny. I've read through many of your threads and learn loads from each one as I'm sure many others do.

It really is a masterclass and gives us something to aim towards with our own models.

Gary

Danny Fenton04/06/2020 21:45:48
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Yep Gray p88 primer, sanding primered tissue is very scary.....

Thanks Gary, appreciate the comment.

The banter on this forum used to fantastic, sadly not been the same for a couple of years.

Cheers

Danny

Dwain Dibley.04/06/2020 22:02:29
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Hi Danny, lots of us watching and appreciating your hard work, but sometimes it's hard to find an original compliment, if you follow me....so we just watch in awe mate..

What sort of tissue will take primer and sanding then, can't be the same as I'm using on the Mr Mulligan can it ??

However it does look far better than even my old fave which was solartex, and no doubt way, way lighter.

D.D.

Danny Fenton04/06/2020 22:17:13
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Hi Dwayne and thanks for the comments, Yes perhaps people are just used to my blogs, as you say.

I struggle to find motivation, like everybody else I guess.

Its nice to know you guys are watching, and getting something from this.

This forum so needs a thumbs up emoji......

Ooops sorry yes this tissue is doubled up which helps, but the minute you see you are through the primer stop! Otherwise its knackered.

Tissue adds a tremendous amount of strength to a structure, where as film adds virtually nothing. So even if they were the same weight tissue wins hands down. But it is awkward to use, smelly if used with dope, and as you say very easily sanded through. Requires painting, so it is easy to understand why the iron on coverings are so popular.

Something really nostalgic about tissue and dope though..........

 

Cheers

Danny

Edited By Danny Fenton on 04/06/2020 22:21:46

Danny Fenton05/06/2020 16:15:22
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day off today so made some good progress.

Those of you that have suffered this blog from the beginning will recall that I tried all sorts of fabric over tissue, the rudder was a very fine nylon over tissue, the tail-plane a silk over tissue. I used experimented with torn Solartex for the tapes on the tail-plane. Well tissue ended up my choice for most of the model and I wish that had been my choice for all of the model.

When primer went over the rudder, boy was it rough, even though it had a zillion coats of dope there were pinholes everywhere, and it looked like it was made of wool. Now I know nylon takes some dope to fill the pores but had hoped the tissue would help here. Anyway a couple of coats of sanding sealer, and some sanding seems to have rescued the rudder. Followed by a generous coat of P88, (mostly sanded away).

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The tail-plane was as rough as anything after the primer. And I really was tempted to rip the covering off and throw on a couple of layers of tissue. But I persevered. 400 grit used dry, over a very generous layer of P88 seems to have worked, but I wont know until I spray gloss silver over the lot. The tissue covered areas are really nice and smooth so I am not too worried about those areas. They were treated to 800 grit used dry and extremely carefully, especially over those 0.5mm carbon rods, used to define the longerons.

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So this is all a bit too much for my airbrush, out to the garage workshop and the big compressor and panel gun for some silver.

If this is the last post on this thread you will know what happened. With any luck the next post will be of a gleaming fuselage.

Reality is it will probably fall somewhere between the two.......

Cheers

Danny

Edited By Danny Fenton on 05/06/2020 16:16:04

Doc Marten05/06/2020 16:45:01
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How tough is double tissue Danny?

I prefer tissue but use Habotai nylon because of its durability:

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Martian05/06/2020 16:50:49
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Thumbs up and no suffering here Danny

Danny Fenton05/06/2020 18:06:51
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Well as suspected somewhere between perfection and disaster!

First let me show the paint dust extractor. This is proper paint filter material, I let the fan suck it against the grille, and leave it running full blast. The dust is drawn onto the filter. Clean at the start, and twenty minutes later lots of nice trapped overspray. Works surprisingly well

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Actually in fairness, its not bad at all. And i will live with it. Another coat would get more gloss, but with silver even is the hard bit, and I seem to have accidentally achieved that.

So I will call that bit done.

I struggled with the gun, and at first had the fan width too fine and completely flooded the poor rudder. It was a mess. However left it to stew and carried on with the other bits. By the end I had the fan width sussed. Went back to the rudder and blew a more measured coat and sanity was restored.

It really is a wonderful paint to use, and just to clear this up, 25ml part A, 25ml part B, and 25ml Reducer. Though a quick dust over with increased reducer would have probably glossed it a bit.

Cheers

Danny

Eric Robson05/06/2020 18:56:48
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Hi Danny, the carbon rods really work well, it's looking very good. My stomach could not stand all that dope that's why I covered mine in Oratex, it is surprising how tough it is.

Cheers Eric.

Martyn K05/06/2020 19:14:16
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Looks pretty good from here Danny

Klass Kote really is nice to use isn't it?

Martyn

Danny Fenton05/06/2020 19:29:53
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Hi Martyn, thx yes it looks pretty good from here too.

KK is lovely to use. I have just ordered a suite of colours from Phil @ FighterAces to do everything in KK.

3 missing colours should be in a shipment en route from the States.

Cheers

Danny

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