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Danny Fenton04/11/2018 10:19:48
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Lol just a bit of fun Chris
Danny Fenton04/11/2018 13:49:51
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Did some planking this morning, I was anxious to see how the transition looks between the centre section and the the cockpit shrouds.

I have shown a method for cutting planks at an angle, but to be honest I just cut them perpendicular and then sand the chamfer to fit.

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I taped a length of scrap 1/16 to the strip cutter

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Remember to adjust the blade height.
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I like to start at the bottom and work upwards to the centre-line, the last piece on the centre-line leaving a triangular gap to fill. I like to make the gaps as tight as I can, resorting to filler only as a last resort.

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A quick sand has shown that the transition looks okay, so I am happy with the shape of F6

I created a new former to straddle the large gap on the starboard side.

Cheers

Danny

Danny Fenton05/11/2018 21:21:34
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I was really excited to get to the bench today to do more planking, but alas only got 30 mins. anyway did a bit more. I should have mentioned yesterday that you cut one bevelled strip and then flip the wood and the next cut will bevel in the opposite direction. the scrap balsa taped on the stripper base to angle the blade was actually 1/8 and produced the perfect angle when a bevelled section was against another bevelled section. The first piece glued down is the first stripped, ie only bevelled on the one edge.
The fuselage shape dictates that the planking will need to be curved, but when the bend gets too great don't be afraid to make a curved piece to reset things.

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The beauty of such thick sheeting is that there is plenty of meat to sand. good bevels are important, you don't want to sand the joints only to find the joints open up! Hopefully I have mine about right.

Cheers
Danny

Tony Bennett05/11/2018 21:24:38
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very nice planking Danny.

you da man sir.

Tony B

Danny Fenton05/11/2018 21:38:00
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Thanks Tony, I think we are all doing really well, little over a month in

Cheers

Danny

Martyn K06/11/2018 08:04:23
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That's great Danny. I like the tip for creating the bevels. I have never tried that

Martyn

Danny Fenton06/11/2018 12:40:25
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Hi Martyn, you should give it a go, it works very well.

Okay the planking is finished, the rest of the fus can be sheeted without too much trouble.

Scaled and copied the Westburg drawing to get the shape of the cockpit cutout, it looks about right

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Right then what next.........

Martin Fane06/11/2018 14:15:17
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Hi Danny

Looking really niceyes

Any chance of a scale PDFof that cockpit cutout blush

cheers

Martin

Danny Fenton06/11/2018 14:29:22
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Thx Martin, yes of course, let me scan the drawing and generate a PDF

Mailshot in a bit.....

2W06/11/2018 16:17:07
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Hi Danny, thanks for the .pdf of the cockpit, but looking at your latest photos, the outline you have modelled has a curved transition from the back to the door. This appears to be in contradiction with both the plan and the Duxford photos. Am I missing something?

William

Danny Fenton06/11/2018 17:20:52
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Hi William, I did indeed add a curve to the rear edge, so you may want to do the same on yours. I used the Westburg drawings to obtain the shape. On the Fury the bulkhead (F7 on the Bryant plan) is vertical, on the full size it slopes. The straight rear edge crept in as the template was cut from paper and I did the curve ad-hoc. the template did not have the curve.

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Just looked at the flickr photos and you might be right, it seems more radiussed doesn't it? But that could simply be the angle.

Okay I will re-visit

Cheers

Danny

Danny Fenton06/11/2018 18:26:05
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Okay I have gone through all the pictures I can find and am struggling to get a feel for the outline of the cockpit, anybody got any overhead views?

Cheers

Danny

Jose L. G.06/11/2018 18:37:14
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Hi Danny.

From the Flickr. library of HAC

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Danny Fenton06/11/2018 18:47:02
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Thanks Jose, I knew I had seen an overhead shot somewhere. Unfortunately not very clear, but does differ from the Westburg drawing doesn't it.

I am busy filling in the cockpit to give me a blank canvas to work on.

Cheers

Danny

Fats Flyer06/11/2018 19:26:11
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Hi Danny,

I've just put a photo of the cockpit shape from above in my Fury Photo album.

I don't know how to put images on the forum.

It comes from the Fury Profile publications number 18.

I hope it helps.

Vince

Danny Fenton06/11/2018 19:36:35
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Hi Vince, and thanks but unfortunately those are artists images, we really need an overhead photo if possible.

Another one from the Whitworth album, it does look more curved, and sharper at the front.

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Cheers

Danny

Danny Fenton06/11/2018 20:23:18
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Okay so what is the opinion on the pencil curve to the right of the centreline. The left is a little too rounded I reckon so will mirror the rhs.....

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Cheers

Danny

Jose L. G.06/11/2018 20:37:16
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Danny. I'd made the cut following the side view.
The back is slighly inclined. When you look from upstairs appear slighly curved.
The horizontal line slopes in the front.
Mine looks like your blue line.
Jos? Luis.

Edited By Jose L. G. on 06/11/2018 20:41:50

Tony Bennett06/11/2018 20:57:55
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this is mine, whether it is right is another matter.

Tony B

Martin Fane06/11/2018 21:00:04
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Danny

I wonder if these help ?

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