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What would be a good first Balsa build

Put simple, what would be a good first balsa build kit?

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Thomas Gooderham30/08/2018 22:32:29
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Initial suggestions have been Ben Buckle Super 60 - but are there any other options to consider? - Want to now build my first plane - could be high wing plane, or a low wing trainer!

I currently have a Ares Gamma V2, Bixler 2, and a Thunder Tiger Cardinal Cessna 177 and have been flying since Jan 18

Thanks

john stones 130/08/2018 23:51:58
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Nigel R did a (RM trainer) recently on this forum, enter it in the keyword box top left and have a look Thomas.

Chris North 331/08/2018 06:28:43
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Hi Thomas,

my first balsa build - well in 35 years at least - was the RCM&E Batty free plan. I had been learning to fly on some home built flitetest foam board planes (spitfire and racer) as well as the volantex Super Decathalon. I did think about going down the standard trainer route but I wanted something a little different and Batty is certainly different.

Despite its looks it is actually very easy and straight forward to build. it is not to large and so can be transported easily in one piece, and it flies very well. I found it very easy to transition to this plane from foam models - the only thing being to remember the extra weight means it needs to be flown in to landings as it doesn't float for long once the engine is cut.!

I am sure the recommended path is to build a high wing trainer but in my experience I'd say don't be put off trying something a little different.

I put a build thread on the forum here if you do decide to give it a go.

gangster31/08/2018 07:34:39
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You mentioned the Ben Buckle super 60 or a first low winger. Well a model that fits both requirements would be the Ben Buckle super 60 low wing. Lovely model very stable and reassuring to fly. Works well on electric or glow. It’s a traditional build with built up wings. If you think you would like a simpler build to start with with a sheet fuselage and foam wings then how about a Foss Wot. Acro or Wot 4 in kit form Alternatively look at the magician from Pegasus models

If you don’t want a full kit and the chance to build with sheet sides and foam wings and do a bit of your own cutting out hlook at the plan packs from Masons Models

Cuban831/08/2018 07:53:41
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The first model that I built from a plan was Jack Headley's Piper Cub, back in the early 80s. Dead easy to build, guaranteed good flyer, looks nice in the air as all cubs do, and wont take long to build or cost a lot. Comes as a three channel design, but you could easily build in ailerons if you wanted to, but I remember it went perfectly OK without them.

My original model was electric powered, which was very radical and advanced for the time, although even with a buggy motor and cheap six or seven cell nicad pack, it flew nicely from a hand launch, but didn't have the grunt to ROG. No such problem these days though. Worth a look. **LINK**

 

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Max Z31/08/2018 08:03:14
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For some simple fun, try the "Jimmy" from RBCkits. Download the manual from the site and see if you like it.

Max.

(Promoting my own stuff? Guilty, though I am not commercially involved in RBCkits)

 

Edited By Max Z on 31/08/2018 08:04:44

Peter Miller31/08/2018 08:07:00
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Why not build "The Ohmen" in the October issue of RCM&E. If you keep the throws in the low rate area it will be great, when you are used to it go to high rates.

Cheap, easy to build and tremendous fun

Nigel R31/08/2018 08:12:26
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Might be worth reading Mark's RM Trainer thread rather than mine, I did mine a little different to plan and with electric, Mark built it exactly to plan with a glow motor. Either way it is a straightforward build.

Even simpler is the Pronto which uses identical wing/tail but a more basic fuselage. Originally designed to be the simplest model possible to get you airbourne (before ARTFs!) The plan has dimensions drawn on it so you can just draw it out on the sheet wood that you need to cut.

https://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=8748

If you are after a kit, and not necessarily a high wing trainer type, then I I would suggest the SLEC Funfly, available in IC and electric kits. Well proven flyer and good 'second model'. That's a complete build, wing as well, in wood.

The Galaxy range from Pegasus models are, I think, all with foam wings, so are a bit quicker to build. The Magician is a good low winger.

J D 831/08/2018 09:18:38
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DB sport and scale Mascot, a trainer builders kit, or the Tinker a good first biplane.

Edited By J D 8 on 31/08/2018 09:19:04

ken anderson.31/08/2018 09:44:37
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hello Thomas, consider the Chris Foss designs(wot's) canny selection of model types and you get plenty of balsa to bash into shape..the wings are foam/veneer covered...but plenty of wood in the kits to have a go at...

ken anderson...ne...1...bash the wood dept.

Geoff Sleath31/08/2018 11:45:41
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Posted by Peter Miller on 31/08/2018 08:07:00:

Why not build "The Ohmen" in the October issue of RCM&E. If you keep the throws in the low rate area it will be great, when you are used to it go to high rates.

Cheap, easy to build and tremendous fun

I'm thinking of building that, too, though not my first balsa build. I wonder what genius designed it?

Geoff

Mike Etheridge 131/08/2018 15:00:00
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I would agree that the Super 60 is a good first balsa build as is the Junior 60, I have both. The Junior 60 is 56 years old this year. However looking back I had great fun with a free-flight Keil Kraft Pirate, Southern Dragon, and the Mercury Magna back in the 60's , the sort of planes that feature in the Nationals 'Chuck and Duck' events.

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Peter Miller31/08/2018 15:23:25
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Posted by Geoff Sleath on 31/08/2018 11:45:41:
Posted by Peter Miller on 31/08/2018 08:07:00:

Why not build "The Ohmen" in the October issue of RCM&E. If you keep the throws in the low rate area it will be great, when you are used to it go to high rates.

Cheap, easy to build and tremendous fun

I'm thinking of building that, too, though not my first balsa build. I wonder what genius designed it?

Geoff

No Genius. It is easy, just copy a plan and reduce it then make some changesdevil

onetenor31/08/2018 15:44:14
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A veron Deacon Or Cardinal modified with Ailerons Eles &rudder. Throttle too if you wish. Both simple builds and careful choice of woods will keep the weight down.A slight size reduction in sizes at the tail might help too. Maybe throughout the frame but don't overdo it. They really fly well even if built as per.

John Duncker31/08/2018 20:11:00
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Everybody should have a Phil Kraft Ugly Stick in their fleet. Easy to build and flies much better than it looks. Also hard to screw up.

It now comes in a variety of sizes so pick one and go for it.

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An Astro Hog is another possibility. [ Reduced dihedral variant ]

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J D 831/08/2018 22:23:48
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Just taken delivery of a Vintage model works Veron Cardinal. Complete kit with very nice laser cut wood. My first proper build for some time. Design has been up dated for up to 3 channel radio or can still be built free flight.

onetenor31/08/2018 23:01:07
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You could try this from Sarik Really steady flier but has some aerodynamic ability. How do I know. No 2 sonhas done one as a first model with grandson( one of the 7 but not all one son's progeny) He was doing stunts on 2nd flight. It's in the blood it seems.LOL. Reports some ground pressure effect making it a long floaty approach but can be stalled in from about 6"altitude to a nice 3 pointer. I might do one myself when fit again.laugh here it is----https://www.sarikhobbies.com/product/very-short-plane-2/

Piers Bowlan01/09/2018 07:26:12
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Posted by onetenor on 31/08/2018 23:01:07:

You could try this from Sarik Really steady flier but has some aerodynamic ability. How do I know. No 2 sonhas done one as a first model with grandson( one of the 7 but not all one son's progeny) He was doing stunts on 2nd flight. It's in the blood it seems.LOL. Reports some ground pressure effect making it a long floaty approach but can be stalled in from about 6"altitude to a nice 3 pointer. I might do one myself when fit again.laugh here it is----https://www.sarikhobbies.com/product/very-short-plane-2

I agree onetenor, Derek Woodward's Very Short Plane is a great little model and on my build list. The link to the plan is here. The video is here Thomas, if you are interested.

Edited By Piers Bowlan on 01/09/2018 07:47:07

Piers Bowlan01/09/2018 09:47:05
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You might be interested in Christian Moes updated Vernon Mini Robot MW3637 37in span with the plan showing details for IC or electric versions. Very simple wing construction too for a quick build. There was a pull out plan and article in the June 2013 RCMW magazine. The Video of it flying is here.

 

Edited By Piers Bowlan on 01/09/2018 09:54:13

frank killan17/09/2018 16:02:00
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Kamco kadet. Search online for kamco plans, good trainer, good first build.

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