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SIMON CRAGG12/10/2018 20:04:40
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According to JE the ASP factory is moving and the engines are not available for the foreseeable future. Anybody any inside info?. Not a lot of ASP in stock on the JE site!.

Former Member12/10/2018 20:13:19
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SIMON CRAGG12/10/2018 20:15:21
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Just wondering if its the end of ASP altogether......would not suprise me!.

kevin b12/10/2018 22:17:28
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Posted by SIMON CRAGG on 12/10/2018 20:15:21:

Just wondering if its the end of ASP altogether......would not suprise me!.

DOOM, GLOOM, WOH IS ME !

Honestly, it's like the beginning of an episode of Up Pompeii.

Does anybody out there know the whereabouts of the forums populated by optimists ?

The amount of negativity on this forum takes some believing. I wouldn't be surprised if the mods don't have a direct line to the Samaritans, just in case !

This is a hobby. I thought it was something we all supposedly enjoy being involved with. I have got to the point now where I can't be bothered even winding the whingers up any more !!!

Not going to waste any more time on this one.

Cue for a song. Ok everybody, after 3.

1, 2, "Let's all look on the bright side of life...………….."

cheeky

kevin b12/10/2018 22:19:09
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P.S.

I happen to like ASP / Super Custom engines.

Percy Verance12/10/2018 22:27:58
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I see one possible benefit here. As the supply of new engines lessens ( if indeed that is what is happening ) then maybe the value of decent used engines will hold up a little more robustly?

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SIMON CRAGG13/10/2018 04:23:15
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Posted by kevin b on 12/10/2018 22:17:28:
Posted by SIMON CRAGG on 12/10/2018 20:15:21:

Just wondering if its the end of ASP altogether......would not suprise me!.

DOOM, GLOOM, WOH IS ME !

Honestly, it's like the beginning of an episode of Up Pompeii.

Does anybody out there know the whereabouts of the forums populated by optimists ?

The amount of negativity on this forum takes some believing. I wouldn't be surprised if the mods don't have a direct line to the Samaritans, just in case !

This is a hobby. I thought it was something we all supposedly enjoy being involved with. I have got to the point now where I can't be bothered even winding the whingers up any more !!!

Not going to waste any more time on this one.

Cue for a song. Ok everybody, after 3.

1, 2, "Let's all look on the bright side of life...………….."

cheeky

Where did that come from?

Its not meant to be doom and gloom, its a fact. I asked a simple question, as ASP engines appear to be in short supply, and hopefully its a storm in a teacup.

I was very suprised when I looked at the JE website for a new ASP.75 that stock was so low.

You have absolutely no chance of winding me up, so propbably best to scroll by fella!.

Anyway, lets just hope that its a temporary glitch, as I have an airframe sat in the hanger waiting for its new engine!.

cymaz13/10/2018 06:05:16
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IIRC..ASP , SC and Magnum engines are all made by Sanye Models.

Jon - Laser Engines13/10/2018 07:27:38
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Posted by cymaz on 13/10/2018 06:05:16:

IIRC..ASP , SC and Magnum engines are all made by Sanye Models.

yup, that was my impression as well. If ASP are on the move then its likely the other brands are too

Nigel Grant 113/10/2018 08:24:52
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It was a reasonable observation Simon. I see Hobbyking has gone out of supplying ASP engines, and presumably the residual IC brands, OS & Cox as soon they clear existing stock. Could well mean that reducing demand for Glow IC against Electric and Gas will see Sanye ceasing production. They're still available on Ali express at the moment.

Peter Miller13/10/2018 08:39:06
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J. Perkins sell SC engines, they come from the same factory and I actually prefer them. Never have a problem with them

CARPERFECT13/10/2018 08:56:56
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20180813_095707.jpgI have a BNIB ASP 60 if anybody wants one Just engine price is £78.64 plus postage. Mine £50 posted. Anybody interested ?

 

Edited By CARPERFECT on 13/10/2018 09:23:24

Percy Verance13/10/2018 09:12:12
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Tom

It's probably best not to mention MDS. Not even Ripmax do these days.......

It's probably fair to say that sales of i.c. model engines have dwindled in recent years. If you'd been watching the OS site over the past few years, you'd have seen a gradual paring of the range. And if that's the state of the game with OS, it isn't going to bode too well for other mass market manufacturers. I believe Enya now only produce to order on a sort of part time basis. Looking at some US based websites, the picture looks better. The US still has some manufacturers of engines, with Jett Engines being a notable one. Perhaps electric flight hasn't taken off (sorry) to the same degree as in Europe?

As far as the UK produced Laser range goes, I see a brighter future there. They are pretty much a niche item, with a solid worldwide customer base. Hand built by Jon, each engine is individually run/tested before dispatch ( unless you ask him not to). I think we'll see Laser around for a good while yet....

 

 

 

 

Edited By Percy Verance on 13/10/2018 09:30:17

Don Fry13/10/2018 09:25:50
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Carperfect, I'll have it. Have sent a message.

Percy Verance13/10/2018 09:27:22
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That has to be a bargain I'd have thought......

Robert Welford13/10/2018 09:39:14
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I heard from someone in the Trade that OS were planning to stop manufacturing glow engines.

Anyone heard this? I hope it's not true

Cuban813/10/2018 09:43:42
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Products come and go, if it's true that ASP will eventually fade away and OS are throwing in the towel on two-strokes, then an alternative will fill the vacuum. Not surprising when the sale of new glow two-strokes must have almost dried up and the glow four strokes are now being challenged by petrol alternatives, particularly in the larger sizes.

Nothing very new really, as quite a number of my friends have gone over to petrol four strokes for larger engines because of their cleanliness and economy. Not so much for the cost saving, but the inconvenience of buying and storing considerable quantities of glow fuel.

Even an ordinary busy flying day with a 120 fourstroke will, in my experience, get through at least a half a gallon of fuel, so a stock of four or five gallons will soon be consumed. My petrol owning mates get through nothing like the amount of fuel that I use.

Never thought I'd say it but glow has had its day. IMHO. Just look what's happened to large two strokes, almost entirely sparkies now.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited By Cuban8 on 13/10/2018 09:57:49

Percy Verance13/10/2018 09:57:06
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C8

You can make a 1.20 four stroke last a busy flying day on half a gallon of fuel? I'm impressed. What's the secret?

And I wholeheartedly agree, the heady days of the 70's and 80's are but a memory. Our hobby is evolving......

 

Edited By Percy Verance on 13/10/2018 09:59:57

Jon - Laser Engines13/10/2018 10:03:02
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Posted by Cuban8 on 13/10/2018 09:43:42:

Even an ordinary busy flying day with a 120 fourstroke will, in my experience, get through at least a half a gallon of fuel, so a stock of four or five gallons will soon be consumed. My petrol owning mates get through a fraction of the amount of glow fuel that I go through.

Edited By Cuban8 on 13/10/2018 09:51:16

Im not 100% sure i agree with you cuban. I great deal depends on which fuel you are using as high nitro will make a big difference to fuel consumption. The tune of the engine makes a big difference too and most run their engines excessively rich, especially on the bottom end.

I only mention this as the other weekend i flew my 360v powered sea fury and 300v powered P39. They are 58cc and 48cc respectively and after 2 flights with each i had used about 1/2 gallon of glow fuel which is about £7.50 worth. I then drained the tanks back into the bottle and got a reasonable amount back so i was at about a 1/3rd total use. For a 120 to use that much i would expect at least 8-10 flights and most of us dont fly that much in a day.

In any case, given that i spent £12 on the bits i brought up for the BBQ we had on the field im really not worried about it. I have had a nice day out, had a bbq, had a good time with my models and all for around 20 quid.

A full day out for 20 quid? sounds good to me.

As for OS packing in glow...i would be surprised if they stopped all together but i could see their 2 strokes being dropped. That is assuming that ASP come back online, if not OS once again have a captive audience.

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