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GrahamWh03/12/2018 20:10:08
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The DBSportandScale site has started advertising a new Pup to add to their small electric 1/8 size and 1/4 scale size which will be ready hopefully in Jan 2019.

It will have a 60" wing span, so will appeal to those who have been looking unsuccessfully for a Flair Puppeteer in stock anywhere as well as to those who want a more scale like model in the range. Now where's that spare OS 70 Surpass I had lying around...

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Geoff Sleath03/12/2018 21:00:54
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That is really good news. I built a DBS&S 58" DH Cirrus/Gypsy Moth last winter and I would love to build a Pup but the 1/4 scale is a bit too big for easy transport (and building in my smallish workshop). The Moth is 1/6th scale I'm guessing the Pup's somewhere in that area, too.

This winter it's my Ryan STA which is gradually coming together and then I aim to repair my H9 P47 which I crashed a few years ago but next winter's project is open.

Geoff

Trevor Crook03/12/2018 22:48:46
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Sounds my kind of size Graham, but couldn't see any mention of it on their website. Where did you see it?

Geoff Sleath03/12/2018 23:17:58
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It's under DB aircraft kits near the bottom

Geoff

Jon - Laser Engines03/12/2018 23:45:21
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60'' span? wants about a 50 4 stroke i reckon

Geoff Sleath04/12/2018 00:37:34
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More like 800 watts on 4S LiPos, I reckon cheeky

Geoff

Trevor Crook04/12/2018 07:16:45
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I reckon either would work well, although being all leccy I'd go your route Geoff. I wonder if it caters for easy battery access? Tricky on that type of machine.

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Don Fry04/12/2018 07:30:35
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Send the man an e mail, he is always very helpful I have found

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Trevor Crook04/12/2018 07:41:01
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Oh, and I see it now Geoff - I'd quickly skimmed it looking for a picture of a Pup!

Pete Collins04/12/2018 08:37:30
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I built the small one (Enya .09 powered) many years ago. I redrew the plan slightly and built it as a Dove. It flew like a dream and was my hack of choice for several years.

David Davis04/12/2018 08:46:38
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I used to have a Puppeteer powered by an HPVT 49 fourstroke which flew it well. Being a very heavy engine it was ideal in a model with such a short nose. Something like an ASP 52FS would suit it with some lead in the nose!

Jon - Laser Engines04/12/2018 09:19:48
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Posted by David Davis on 04/12/2018 08:46:38:

I used to have a Puppeteer powered by an HPVT 49 fourstroke which flew it well. Being a very heavy engine it was ideal in a model with such a short nose. Something like an ASP 52FS would suit it with some lead in the nose!

I was taught to fly on a flair pup powered by an OS 48 surpass. It was plenty of power but was eventually replaced by a 52 when it started getting a bit old.

Cuban804/12/2018 10:24:16
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Good news, indeed re DB Pup. I just wonder what on earth Flair are doing? sad

Martyn K04/12/2018 12:30:39
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Here is a link. Looks like its about 1/5 scale

DB 60" Pup

 

Martyn

 

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Jon - Laser Engines04/12/2018 13:51:35
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Posted by Cuban8 on 04/12/2018 10:24:16:

Good news, indeed re DB Pup. I just wonder what on earth Flair are doing? sad

I heard they were bought out by JPerkins. can anyone confirm?

Gordon Whitehead 104/12/2018 15:47:29
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The Pup-E motor-battery installation looks to have some merit.

However, the 60in span of the new version gives it 9 sq ft area so it could readily support the weight of a 5S 5000 setup and come in at rather less than 9lb for only 16oz/sq ft loading. Consequently it's to be hoped that the battery tray isn't going to be limited in size to accommodating only a 4S setup. The 5S will allow a lower current for the same power, longer flights, and less strain on the battery chemistry.

I'll be interested to see the wing mounting arrangement. I rarely go out flying for more than 3 hours, so fast assembly and dismantling is of the essence. After admiring Ian Redshaw's lovely 1/3rd scale Pup at the recent Ashbourne scale fly-in, an E-powered Pup has been whizzing about in my mind as a possibility for my next 5S lipo-powered model but one or two and this one might be a good candidate.

Gordon

Glyn4404/12/2018 16:29:45
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Small, 60” !!!

GrahamWh31/12/2018 15:39:18
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Richard at DB Sport and Scale has kindly replied to an email I sent and we now know the following -

For IC power the pup will be aimed at 52-60 four strokes (it can be electric powered too).

The cowl will be aluminium rather than plastic/fibreglass..

There is still a bit of work to do before they can finally confirm the flying weight and the selling price.

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