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fly boy312/02/2019 17:48:46
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Hi all, just noticed on plan, that the elevator horn must be raked forward. This means I will have to make one ( ply or plastic ?), also what is the reasoning behind this ? Cheers

Nigel R12/02/2019 18:08:22
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Differential movement.

If horn is underneath, result is, more down than up.

If horn is on top, result is more up than down.

Or it could be a mistake in the plan.

What plan is it?

jrman12/02/2019 18:11:51
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Isn't it the other way round Nigel?

Denis Watkins12/02/2019 18:20:17
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If this is a lightweight model, then cut the horn from plywood

But for heavyweights, make one from PCB, or paxolin,

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Don Fry12/02/2019 18:27:55
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Hi Boy, is it raked forward, so the horns hole is above the elevator, tailplane join. If so, it's to get equal up/ down movement off the push rod.

fly boy312/02/2019 18:51:11
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Thanks all for quick replies. The plan is for Flying Aces

Sportster, from Outerzone. The horn is raked forward, and model will be less than 4 lbs auw. Also the horn is underneath. Cheers. ps sorry cannot send pic. of plan from iPad.

Edited By fly boy3 on 12/02/2019 19:05:53

jrman12/02/2019 18:59:04
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FB3, If the hole for the clevis is in front of the hinge line you will get more up than down for the same degree of servo rotation.

John Duncker12/02/2019 19:06:44
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More up than down

fly boy312/02/2019 19:09:27
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Thanks jrman, and yes the hole is well in front of hinge line if drawing is correct.

Bruce Collinson12/02/2019 20:34:00
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There are commercially available plastic horns with a long sweep forward and if the Mancave wasn’t so untidy I’d find one and tell you what to look for. Might well be Multiplex. Modelshop Leeds has them.

BTC

Nigel R12/02/2019 21:16:39
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No it works the other way around chaps. Try it and see.

On this plan, it is raked forward so that you can use an internal horn inside fuselage which is soldered to the elevator joiner. The rake is purely to avoid bashing the tailpost when you move elevator upwards.

Edited By Nigel R on 12/02/2019 21:17:51

Frank Skilbeck12/02/2019 22:39:18
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If you offset the servo arm by the same amount, i.e. if the elevator horn is 15 deg in front of the elevator hinge line then move the servo horn round on the splines by a similar amount, should minimise any differential movement.

BTW I make horns where required out of epoxy glass sheet.

Edited By Frank Skilbeck on 12/02/2019 22:39:44

Engine Doctor12/02/2019 22:52:19
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For linear movement the hole in the horn or pivot point should be in line with the control surface joint.at neutral .

fly boy313/02/2019 20:56:16
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Hi all, thanks for the replies, I think Nigel R could well be right for the reason for the rake. Due to the rake I will still have some differential during operation. Frank and Engine doctor have also provided useful info together with others. Cheers.

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