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Martian07/04/2019 16:38:41
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I,m lucky I got diagnosed early so treatment will work.

Spread the word get tested for prostate cancer if you are over 50 it is usually a blood test for PSA which is prostate specific antigens if it is raised for your age further tests may be recommended, The sneaky thing about prostate cancer there are no symptoms until it's well advanced then your are in for a unpleasant end to your life. Even if you have to have a DRE (Digital Rectal Examination) it is no big deal and a whole lot better than dying .

Dave Cunnington07/04/2019 16:57:12
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Glad to hear that Martian

I too was lucky back in 2005 and had mine removed

Spread the word, don't be a typical male and ignore it cos it can kill you if not looked at

SIMON CRAGG07/04/2019 16:58:11
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Thanks for sharing and very true.

I am what the system calls "Well Worried", and get tested annually. Not bothered what the tests involve, much better than not knowing.

Ultymate07/04/2019 17:23:27
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If you plan on having the "finger" test/examination have it after the PSA test as it can lead to raised PSA levels !

Richard Ashworth07/04/2019 18:50:59
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Another vote for Get Tested!

I have had two “scares”.

In 2015 I started getting tested after a urine infection and a slightly raised PSA blood test. Multipoint biopsy (sounds worse than it is, I couldn’t class it even as uncomfortable!) clear, and eventually PSA dropped back to “normal”.

2018 PSA again tested raised. Leeds this time did a MRI scan (considered in some cases a more effective test) and advised enlarged prostate but nothing of concern on the scan which at 66 suggests unlikely to have problems in future, higher PSA level not unexpected due to enlargement. Also PSA level varies day to day.

If there is a problem best caught and treated as early as possible, better to know rather than bury the head in the sand.

Martian07/04/2019 19:25:42
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Thanks guys . Please keep adding there is no need to die from this

BackinBlack07/04/2019 19:38:23
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Just a year since I was diagnosed with stage 2/3 Prostate Cancer. I had had regular "finger" examinations, up to about 3 years ago as I had for some time had a need to get up during the night for a pee. Findings were only of a slightly enlarged Prostate, no need to worry. Need to get up during the night increased to 2 sometimes 3 times, mentioned this to doctor, PSA test followed immediately which showed significantly raised PSA levels. Immediate referral to Urology department at Churchill Hospital Oxford. MRI and Multipoint biopsy followed quickly, then offered either surgery or radiotherapy plus hormone treatment. I chose surgery, 4.5 hour keyhole surgery, home next day a few weeks recuperation and almost back to normal. 8 Weeks from referral to Surgery, can't praise the Churchill team enough, they were brilliant.

A year on and all is clear.

If you're over 50 PSA tests are available on demand, so if in doubt get tested, it's only a simple blood test and might avoid the consequences of Prostate Cancer.

Ian

Martian07/04/2019 19:46:38
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Brilliant news Brian ,just shows how quickly it can deve!op

Josip Vrandecic -Mes07/04/2019 21:38:12
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Dear Martin , congrats on openness and courage. I wish you all good, happiness and healingthumbs up

Cheers

Jo

Robert Hay 407/04/2019 22:09:14
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Martian, all the best with your treatment, thanks for sharing this and raising awareness of this (easily curable!) issue.

Rob

i12fly07/04/2019 22:59:38
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I've had a scan and a couple of camera scope tests (slight discomfort but no pain) and was given the all clear, although I still have to get up in the night frown.

The only thing I would say is that when you go for the DRE, if you can, pick your doctor with long thin fingers and short nails, I did, she was very careful and I didn't feel a thing blush

Old Geezer08/04/2019 00:42:06
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Had a panic myself a few months ago - "frequency" and "urgency" plus up at least twice in the night to produce not much more than an egg cupful sometimes, quite rapid in onset too so perhaps even more worrying. Saw our Doctor, who I have huge respect for and faith in ( even got me new hip for Christmas, December before last! ) Usual procedure ( let's not go into details ) and was reassured by Doctor that everything feels normal + blood test = PSA normal range. "You've got a Sensitive Bladder" quoth he - and no - you're not going to have to wear plastic Y fronts stuffed with blotting paper! He started me on a medication called Betmiga - one tiny tablet daily, at bedtime - problem fixed, immediately! The treatment has been transformative - the luxury of uninterrupted sleep. So the moral of this story - if you think ( or you know ) you have a problem with your plumbing - don't delay - get thee to a medic ASAP - things might not be as bad as you feared - and if you're lucky like me you might be fixed on the spot.

Glyn4408/04/2019 07:33:38
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Posted by BackinBlack on 07/04/2019 19:38:23:

Just a year since I was diagnosed with stage 2/3 Prostate Cancer. I had had regular "finger" examinations, up to about 3 years ago as I had for some time had a need to get up during the night for a pee. Findings were only of a slightly enlarged Prostate, no need to worry. Need to get up during the night increased to 2 sometimes 3 times, mentioned this to doctor, PSA test followed immediately which showed significantly raised PSA levels. Immediate referral to Urology department at Churchill Hospital Oxford. MRI and Multipoint biopsy followed quickly, then offered either surgery or radiotherapy plus hormone treatment. I chose surgery, 4.5 hour keyhole surgery, home next day a few weeks recuperation and almost back to normal. 8 Weeks from referral to Surgery, can't praise the Churchill team enough, they were brilliant.

A year on and all is clear.

If you're over 50 PSA tests are available on demand, so if in doubt get tested, it's only a simple blood test and might avoid the consequences of Prostate Cancer.

Ian

I am, as of last Friday, at this stage. Now awaiting a bone scan to ensure the C hasn’t spread. It goes into bones apparently. I’m told that if that is clear, then I get the hormone plus radiation treatment (every day for 4 to 7 weeks)

i haven’t been offered the keyhole surgery option. Do you think I should query that? The consultant mentioned that 1 in 8 men will suffer this, so yea get checked. Early is good.

Robin Etherton08/04/2019 08:30:17
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If you are going to get a rectal examination try to get a lady doctor. They have smaller hands and it’s not so painful.

Phil Brooks08/04/2019 10:05:04
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Posted by Robin Etherton on 08/04/2019 08:30:17:

If you are going to get a rectal examination try to get a lady doctor. They have smaller hands and it’s not so painful.

Having watched my brother-in-law die slowly and painfully I would advise anyone to get tested and if necessary get examined, even if the doctor is built like a gorilla. A few minutes of discomfort does not compare with the pain and suffering he went through. I took the advice he gave me, had the PSA test and the examination, and my cancer was discovered and removed early. That was seven years ago, and I still think of him every day.

Martyn K08/04/2019 11:14:27
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This is a long but interesting paper from an old friend of mine.. Lots of detail but a genuine human/patients experience

Andy's Story

Ben B08/04/2019 12:29:11
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Please don't be put off getting checked due to fear of the finger. The truth is sticking a finger up the backside of someone without symptoms is not a particularly useful test in the majority of cases and therefore (as a GP with massive hands) I tend to just not do it.

It's useful if someone has symptoms (to see if the prostate is enlarged) but for screening of asymptomatic patients it's not useful or strictly required and as said it puts up the PSA test for the next few weeks.

What's increasingly apparent is that changes in the PSA level within normal are also quite important IE if a patient's PSA level is still normal but has doubled in a year or two it can be very relevant.

So the answer gents is please get your GP to check your PSA level annually and just decline the finger if offered and you don't want it!

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Bruce Collinson08/04/2019 13:48:59
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Ditto for actinic keratoses.

If you know what these are, skip the rest. If not, read on.

I'm seeing the dermatologist later today for the third time in 10 years, as a fairly direct result of having sat on top of the old Winter Shed at Headingley, hatless, for a couple of days too many. 30 years later the skin damage is manifesting itself.

Luckily, keratoses are low grade pre-cancerous and in my case easily treated with stuff called Efudix but they're a symptom of the damage that easily leads to much more serious carcinomas and these are frequently fatal. Small, hard persistent spots and slight soreness are my tell-tales, forehead and scalp. In terms, I now avoid sun contact altogether, no short sleeves, sun block on hands and all of the neck upwards.

Having returned to flying 3 or 4 years ago I now spend long periods in the sun. I urge you to think about this, unless you're blessed with especially high levels of melanin (I was going to write "especially dark skin" but I suspect I'm not allowed that old and robust English language any more).

BTC

Piers Bowlan08/04/2019 13:55:59
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David, The previous poster (Ben B) is a GP evidently, so not 'just some chap on a model flying forum', so I suggest he is qualified to offer his opinion regarding DRE screening without further symptoms. 

Edited By Piers Bowlan on 08/04/2019 14:11:19

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