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Steve J26/04/2019 14:00:58
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Enjoy.

Charge proposal for the UK Drone Registration Scheme

Steve

Steve J26/04/2019 14:17:29
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£16.50 / operator / year.

No option to register via the BMFA etc.

Steve

Gary Manuel26/04/2019 14:24:27
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There's still a possibility that BMFA etc will negotiate an exemption / subsidy via association membership.

They came up trumps with height restriction. Hopefully they'll do the same again.

Edited By Gary Manuel on 26/04/2019 14:29:46

Alan Gorham_26/04/2019 14:28:14
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It looks unlikely that they will be able to get an exemption. The document specifically states several times that the registrant numbers expected include members of existing model flying associations.

I especially loved the "infographic" on the last page of the document. I don't really understand it if truth is told. Why does one route involve a test and the other involve a fee but then it states that if you are responsible for AND fly drones then only one registration is necessary...

The LMA have just issued guidance that it will need to be complied with, so it doesn't look likely that we will be exempted.

Edited By Alan Gorham_ on 26/04/2019 14:28:33

Edited By Alan Gorham_ on 26/04/2019 14:30:21

Geoff Sleath26/04/2019 14:28:41
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Nothing much to enjoy! Quite apart from the fact that the only ones who'll register will be those who aren't a problem anyway.

I'll have a think and respond to the document. They mention the cost of a fishing licence. I haven't fished since I was schoolboy with a home made rod fishing down the local cut - without a licence usually but I think they left us alone hoping we'd take up the pastime seriously as we grew up. But isn't the cost of a licence similar to club subs rather than a national scheme run by the government?

Geoff

Steve J26/04/2019 14:32:10
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Posted by Alan Gorham_ on 26/04/2019 14:28:14:

I especially loved the "infographic" on the last page of the document. I don't really understand it if truth is told.

One leg is for the operator and the other is for the remote pilot. An aeromodeller over 18 is both so, as I understand it, you will have to do both.

Steve

Alan Gorham_26/04/2019 14:38:49
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Yes that's my take too but it could have been clearer!

Andy Hall26/04/2019 14:44:38
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This is probably a silly question but does this apply to all RC flying models, or just models that the mainstream media refer to as drones ?

Andy Hall26/04/2019 14:48:27
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Edited By Andy Hall on 26/04/2019 14:50:37

Alan Gorham_26/04/2019 14:53:55
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What other kind of RC flying model did you have in mind?

Alan Gorham_26/04/2019 14:56:41
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All those in the UK operating drones or model aircraft between 250 grams and 20 kilograms must register by the end of November 2019. From the same period, remote pilots will be required to take an online safety test. Failure to comply with these rules could lead to a fine of £1,0001.

Frank Skilbeck26/04/2019 15:35:15
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So they have estimated annual running costs of circa £2.8m of which £300k will be spent on drone safety and advertising the requirement to register...................................

Just over 10% of the revenue is being used to enhance safety angry 2

Megawatt26/04/2019 15:40:23
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Has any information been published about the labelling requirements - Could impact severely on scale models

Alan Gorham_26/04/2019 15:41:56
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Or might not impact much?

Don Fry26/04/2019 15:51:49
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Posted by Megawatt on 26/04/2019 15:40:23:

Has any information been published about the labelling requirements - Could impact severely on scale models

There is a bit of a tendency to make theses things slightly harmonious. In France when we got done, last year, ( but in fairness the French government considered it their duty, so did not charge us).

The number in France must be visible from 30 cm away. It does not have to be on the outside, but readily available. A solution on one of my scalish models, is the inside face of the magnet held battery hatch. On another, it's 3mm lettering, inside the canopy.

charlie holdford26/04/2019 16:44:56
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Typical, I have just started with this hobby and under club instruction to obtain the BFMA A test. which I need to fly un supervised at model club fields.

I can just see me having passed this test, having a couple of weeks to enjoy flying only to be grounded by this new legislation. As a member of the so called BFMA I would have thought they would have been in dialogue with the CAA and would have informed its members prior to finding out via Facebook...... and this forum.

However if they where not involved in these new changes it beggars the question what do they do with the membership fees!

Dont get me wrong I don't have any issues with registering and being a proven safe or able pilot. I just won't do it twice

Alan Gorham_26/04/2019 16:50:44
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That's the Dunkirk spirit. Don't bother to spend a trivial amount of time and money to enjoy a fabulous hobby, just spit the dummy out

You will only register once and the test is online so what's the actual problem here?

Simon Chaddock26/04/2019 17:04:02
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My sub 250 g RC planes suddenly start to look quite attractive. smile p

But then they rather heavily rely on the use of thin Depron sheet which is no longer available! angry

Danny Fenton26/04/2019 17:10:39
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Just to repeat Steves link. There is a web site where you can offer your thoughts, and i would ask all flyers to do so. The BMFA, LMA etc have more clout if we express our feelings.

Personally I have no problem with us all being registered, we are by the BMFA. we are trained and certified through their training schemes. We do not need an additional £16.50 fee to run another system alongside one we already have.

At the end of the day they want to ensure aircraft do not enter controlled airspace, I am not sure how charging legal modellers is going to accomplish that.

Please fill in the consultation document, it may not help, but if we do nothing we give less power to out governing bodies to contest, and we will only have ourselves to blame.

Cheers

Danny

Edited By Danny Fenton on 26/04/2019 17:14:46

Don Fry26/04/2019 17:18:06
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If the test is anything like the French one, with the exception of having to get better aquatinted with privacy laws, if you couldn't pass it when drunk, and at the same time concentrating on something more worthy, you REALY shouldn't be flying.

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