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Interesting reply from email to Richard Moriarty, CAA

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Steve J07/08/2019 15:36:13
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Posted by Jeremy Wilkins on 07/08/2019 15:07:38:

Have a careful read of Article 7 of S.I. 2018 No. 623

CAP 1763 is easier to read.

There will have to be another ANO amendment at some point in the near future to align the ANO with the EU regulations and the long promised Unmanned Aircraft Bill may appear at some point.

Steve

Peter Christy07/08/2019 16:20:31
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As an aside, just had yet another idiot flying a drone from off the pavement outside my house, over a busy road to the beach and over a neighbour's house.

Went out to remonstrate with him - as did the neighbour. Initially insisted he was doing nothing wrong, but quickly scarpered when I quoted the ANO at him and took a picture of him, his drone and his (clearly visible) car registration.

This is what we are up against!

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J D 807/08/2019 16:34:36
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Just had one flying over my farm, felt like getting the 12 gauge out.

Steve J07/08/2019 16:35:14
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Posted by Peter Christy on 07/08/2019 16:20:31:

As an aside, just had yet another idiot flying a drone from off the pavement outside my house, over a busy road to the beach and over a neighbour's house.

This is why we need a registration and testing system .

Steve

Cuban807/08/2019 16:38:11
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I've made up my mind to never interfere with foolish / illegal drone users in public, any more than I'd be inclined to flag down a motorist who was contravening road law. In our situation, If the powers that be generate a load of tosh and then can't enforce it, that's their problem.

Peter Christy07/08/2019 16:58:07
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The problem I have is that some living nearby think its ME that's responsible!!!

And I have no problem with s suitable testing and registration system. I just don't think the DfT proposals are either suitable or sensible!

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Jason-I07/08/2019 17:58:05
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I did a freedom of information request to the DFT 4 weeks ago, and just got some answers as follows:

 

Question 1:

I would like to know how many people contacted Charlotte Vere with concerns about the upcoming drone/model aircraft registration scheme.

 

Answer:

We have estimated that the cost of complying with your request would exceed £600. Section 12 of the Act does not oblige the Department to comply with requests that exceed this limit, and we are therefore refusing your request.

angry Words fail me. Most likely they don't want to answer this, or cannot because all emails just get deleted.

 

Question 2:

I would also like to know how many of those people raised an official complaint after failing to get an answer from Charlotte Vere.

 

Answer:

I can confirm that this information is held by the Department for Transport. On the date of your enquiry, there were no maladministration complaints in relation to failing to get an answer from Baroness Vere.

 

no This is a complete lie - I alone have raised several complaints - where have they gone? angry

 

Question 3:

I would like to know how many accidents, injuries and deaths were recorded in the UK last year as a result of model aircraft flying (model aircraft only please - not drones)

 

Answer:

I can confirm that this information is held by the Air Accident Investigation Branch. There were such no accidents, injuries or deaths recorded in the UK last year as a result of unmanned aircraft flying. Unmanned aircraft include model aircraft.

smiley That's what we already knew!

 

 

Our emails to the CAA and the DFT count for nothing. Our complaints are just being swept under the carpet. It's an utter disgrace!

 

 

Edited By Jason-I on 07/08/2019 17:59:31

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Don Fry09/08/2019 16:50:26
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I am not surprised. A new minister, in a new government, with a crisis to sort out, in the holiday season. I would be inclined to wait a while.

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Peter Christy09/08/2019 18:01:53
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I think it was in one of the other threads covering this that I suggested giving the new minister a month to get his legs under the desk before contacting him - directly or indirectly.

I don't suppose the proposed drone legislation will be at the top of his priority list!

Having said that, he is an aviation enthusiast - he has his own 'plane and a PPL - and did send a letter (published by the BMFA) to the previous minister "requesting justification for the inclusion of the Model Flying community in this draconian system." **LINK**

(Look about half way down the page).

Perhaps something to get your MP to raise with him when they return from the recess?

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Steve J09/08/2019 18:11:39
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I would suggest leaving things for a few weeks.

The DfT sent a letter to the APPG-GA earlier this week which mentions model aircraft in a manner which may indicate a shift in their thinking.

https://twitter.com/APPG_GA/status/1159819064602255360

Steve

Edited By Steve J on 09/08/2019 18:14:47

Peter Christy09/08/2019 19:13:11
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Fingers crossed!

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Don Fry09/08/2019 19:32:50
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In reply, I would give him at least to the 14th, and even then, only a nudge to confirm receipt of the original exchange, I think.

Even though an aviation enthusiast, he is a politition, and is on holiday, knowing that a catastrophe, sorry crisis, is coming, with the usual 20 hour days.

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leslie simmons19/09/2019 11:55:03
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has the caa considered human rights as it is ordering us to register and pay for somthing which is a hobby for us and if you read up on your rights i think you will find that they are in breach of thisall so chek out xjet on utube very interesting les

Jason-I02/10/2019 17:09:20
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Latest response from the DfT to my questions about the registration scheme:

Thank you for your email of 11th September. The Department has nothing further to the answers to your questions it has provided to date. The Department is working with the Civil Aviation Authority to finalise the registration service. The deadline for registration is 30th November 2019 and although there has been a minor delay to the launch of the service, we expect it to go live shortly.

This despite the fact that they have NOT answered a single one of my questions....

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