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paul coleman 126/05/2019 15:00:48
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Hi,Does anybody know.or have this trainer? just wanting a review.

paul coleman 127/05/2019 16:20:48
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Why is there no right side thrust with this model i am wandering! can somebody explain please?

Doc Marten27/05/2019 17:42:20
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Why there is no side thrust, or why you are wandering?

David Ashby - Moderator27/05/2019 17:55:05
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Assume you mean the e-Pioneer?

Reviewed in RCME some 10 years ago. Good model, pretty aerobatic for a trainer. Well made, usual Seagull quality.

Pop the name in the site search box and you’ll find several build threads and the original review. 

Edited By David Ashby - Moderator on 27/05/2019 17:57:09

paul coleman 127/05/2019 17:57:05
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Hi Doc,yes,why is there no side thrust?

paul coleman 127/05/2019 17:58:04
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sorry david,yes the pioneer.

Percy Verance27/05/2019 19:26:02
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I'm also wondering why he's wandering.......

The thing to do is to try it Paul. Then you'll know if it needs any. Some models don't.

Edited By Percy Verance on 27/05/2019 19:27:24

charlie holdford27/05/2019 20:19:12
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I have an e-Pioneer

It has no side thrust issues. So no need to add anything

Flies very well and is sooooooo much better than my foamy trainer

paul coleman 128/05/2019 17:36:27
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Thankyou Charlie,what about thebattery compartment not having a hatch,if the battery should come loose,its bye bye plane,so im gonna make one,and put a couple of 20mm holes in it,ive actually emailed seaguls technical department,they left it out for the cooling of the battery.

Andy C30/05/2019 00:22:02
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I wouldn't put a hatch cover on. All I did was use Velcro on battery and correspnding "shelf" to stop it slipping and effecting CoG and a couple of Velcro straps (superglued to keep from losing) around shelf and battery to stop it falling out. Works a dream.

Andy

paul coleman 130/05/2019 17:16:48
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Thats what i have done Andy,i just want extra security with a hatch,but i may reconsidor

paul coleman 130/05/2019 17:19:26
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How then does this particular model not need any right hand sidethrust,when others do?sarcastic 2

Brian Dorricott 130/05/2019 18:54:06
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Side thrust not required flies like a dream but I did put a lid on battery compartment , made a lip using ply to push one end under and a couple of self tappers with a bit of brass soldered into the slot to make thumb screws ?. Came down once unscrewed the lid and the velcro had let go but the battery stayed put . It's had a battery fall out hence the lid , and a mid air crash and was repaired easily both times . Only other mod was to lock the steered wheel straight ahead and junk the servo , just use the rudder once you have speed up on ground . Trained on it and passed my A test with it and still get it out when I can't be bothered getting the glow fuel out ! Would recommend to anyone as a trainer over any foamy , only bettered by a Seagull Boomerang with a 4 stroke but that's another story .

 

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paul coleman 130/05/2019 19:06:53
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Hi brian,I passed my test with a boomerang,but im going back to basics,to get my confidence back,as i have been crashing recently,and my hearts not quite in it at the minute,so i liked the the look of the pioneer.

charlie holdford30/05/2019 20:09:43
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Yep I am with Andy, no need for a cover, Velcro on battery and two Velcro straps. Keeps the ESC nice and cool.

I pass the connectors through the bulkhead so I can connect the battery via the top hatch. Makes it safer as the model is both upright and constrained.

I use the 4 max setup with 3S battery more than enough power.

Charlie

paul coleman 130/05/2019 20:20:48
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Charlie,what size prop?

charlie holdford16/07/2019 20:58:28
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Hi Paul

Sorry, missed this...

11x7

I have just (yesterday) passed my A test using the Pioneer, and great trainer.

cymaz16/07/2019 22:45:33
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We had one as a club trainer. Flew well with a .46 glow blush

David Davis17/07/2019 07:54:51
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That Seagull E-Pioneer looks very much like a Boomerang. No wonder the Pioneer flew well with a 46 in the nose!

boomerang.jpg

Redex17/07/2019 08:19:19
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Great trainer, I passed my A test some time ago with this model, but it will take you well beyond the A test requirements, good in the wind and some spares available too, lots of fun.

There are lots of threads and help on this forum with at least 2 good articles in RCM&E (March 2008 and Jan 2013). Mine is still used occasionally and has a 4S4000, 60A Esc, EnErG C4420, and 12*6 APC power train. I use velcro to hold the battery in place but have also made a hatch out of scrap plastic to cover the LiPo which is then velcroed to the fuselage with a couple of ducts cut out of the plastic cover - just for some airflow.

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