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Doc Marten19/06/2019 18:07:30
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Posted by Don Fry on 19/06/2019 17:53:32:

I did say, I'm out, but source for "facts"is the Daily Wail. The writer did its best to shift the truth, but in fairness, did put some facts in, but to quote a famous comedian, but nit necessarily in the right order. Read carefully. Knowledge of the law, used to be my job.

for nit, read not

Edited By Don Fry on 19/06/2019 17:54:26

You used the Mail for it's factual content yet challenge the story, how's that work without knowing the actual facts?

Cuban819/06/2019 20:22:34
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I know a person who knocked down a youth on a Pelican Crossing whilst the traffic lights were green - the foolish youth simply ran onto the crossing without warning and was hit by my friend's car that thankfully because of traffic , was travelling much lower than 30 mph, just knocking the wind out of him. This was some years ago and my friend was one of the first to have a dash cam that recorded the whole incident. After reviewing the video, the police found there was no case to answer. Might have been a different outcome on one person's word against the other ,or possible unreliable witness statements.

Can work against you of course,  depending on the circumstances. 

Edited By Cuban8 on 19/06/2019 20:25:05

Doc Marten19/06/2019 20:52:31
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There were 3 witnesses, all in favour of the cyclist.

Tim Flyer19/06/2019 21:05:35
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I think to dare to ride a bicycle on UK roads demands a little ‘recklessness’. On my daily rush hour car drive I regularly witness impatient motorists squeezing between cyclists and oncoming traffic at high speed. They rarely give cyclists enough room, The “lemming overtaking manoeuvre “ where one motorist crosses the centre line to overtake an obstacle and a group behind follow close behind whether safe or not, is firmly established. It surprises me so many cyclists are still prepared to risk riding on British roads . Despite all the cyclist deaths and injuries our media still seem to concentrate on the far smaller number of pedestrian injuries from cyclists, rather than the much larger number of cyclists killed or injured by cars .

Don Fry19/06/2019 22:02:05
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Doc, you are getting quite exited over this. I've got wood to cut. Over and out. Bye.

Doc Marten19/06/2019 23:14:16
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Posted by Don Fry on 19/06/2019 22:02:05:

Doc, you are getting quite exited over this. I've got wood to cut. Over and out. Bye.

I thought you was out anyway? Guess I read it wrong. wink

Not just me getting "excited" over this, it's made national radio, the rags this forum amongst others and you also keep revisiting it even though you think it's something out of nothing.

Enjoy cutting your wood and "over and out" is for Hollywood, your Police background would've taught you that.

........and back on topic:

There will be some people out there seeing this judgement as a nice little earner...…...a couple of grand for some cuts and bruises knowing that there'll be a 50/50 liability in a worst case scenario.

 

Edited By Doc Marten on 19/06/2019 23:20:06

Ernie19/06/2019 23:30:14
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heard on the news today that the fine for begging was £1000

ernie

Tom Sharp 220/06/2019 00:43:56
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Posted by Ernie on 19/06/2019 23:30:14:

heard on the news today that the fine for begging was £1000

ernie

A mere mornings work for the professional begger..

Alex Ferguson 220/06/2019 05:24:43
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Mention of H&S. Isn't boxing a job for professionals? Isn't the aim to cause maximum injury? So why doesn't H&S ban boxing?

Rugby isn't any better either. How often, "He can't play because of injury."

Edited By Alex Ferguson 2 on 20/06/2019 05:25:09

john stones 120/06/2019 08:04:51
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You can't ban Rugby, It's World Cup soon, broke my hand twice and a toe at work, get that banned. wink

Doc Marten20/06/2019 08:26:25
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Posted by Alex Ferguson 2 on 20/06/2019 05:24:43:

Mention of H&S. Isn't boxing a job for professionals? Isn't the aim to cause maximum injury? So why doesn't H&S ban boxing?

You're describing brawling not boxing, the skill is to win by inflicting minimum damage. The idea of H&S is to enable you to carry out your aim as safely as possible by not banning it.

Edited By Doc Marten on 20/06/2019 08:27:41

Dave Cunnington20/06/2019 08:30:27
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Isn't there a sign in many places saying "Our aim is to keep this place clean, your aim will help"

Jon - Laser Engines20/06/2019 08:51:07
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When it comes to the roads i work on the basis that everyone i see is a complete clown and likely to do something stupid. Its a rewarding way to drive actually as the non clowns really brighten your day and the clowns are no surprise so road rage is kept to a minimum. Its also pretty much what my instructor told me to do!

Regarding the OP its safe to say that without all the facts its hard to make a determination of who is most at fault. From the information presented here it seems that both parties are guilty of making it someone else's responsibility to keep them safe. They both made a choice to put their safety in the hands of other people. The woman did this by just following the crowd into the road and assuming (if she saw him) the bike would stop. The biker did this by just marching forward and assuming the wall of people ahead of him would part and usher him through while he yelled at them from a distance.

To be honest, i would have given them both a clip round the ear (metaphorically) and told them not to be so stupid next time.

Doc Marten20/06/2019 13:16:21
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He had a green light Jon, she was crossing against a red light, that alone questions the 50/50 award.

Jon - Laser Engines20/06/2019 13:34:55
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Posted by Doc Marten on 20/06/2019 13:16:21:

He had a green light Jon, she was crossing against a red light, that alone questions the 50/50 award.

oh was this on a crossing? as noone has yet posted the full details of the case im clutching at straws

Bruce Collinson20/06/2019 13:53:22
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This is the ultimate irony.

Round here, between Leeds and Harrogate, we are plagued by Lycra'ed Fascists/mamils. It is common to encounter them on A class trunk roads riding 2 abreast and sometimes the pelloton (is that a collective noun for inconsiderate road users?) can be 50 yards long.

Not everyone was enamoured of the Tour de France. Road closures and shoddy information are intensely irritating as well as extremely inconvenient. They appear and behave as though they are above the rules of the road and Heaven help any taxed, tested and insured road user who tangles with them.

How ironic and fitting then that the riposte has come from a fool with an i-Thing.

As for the multi million pound, empty cycle lanes strangling the centre of Leeds, don't ask.

BTC

Stuart C20/06/2019 15:31:58
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UK green light - proceed with caution, unlike Italian green light - burn rubber and stand on the horn.

Peter Christy20/06/2019 15:53:31
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Posted by Stuart C on 20/06/2019 15:31:58:

UK green light - proceed with caution, unlike Italian green light - burn rubber and stand on the horn.

And in Rome, red (traffic) lights are advisory only. Also motorists regard pedestrians on crossings as targets!

disgust

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Pete

SR 7120/06/2019 17:02:15
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By the huge size of all the people in the UK

I thought walking anywhere at all was a bygone pastime

Gary Murphy 120/06/2019 18:52:49
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From what I have read, another cyclists came forward to say the cyclist in question was riding aggressively.

You see it all the time with cyclists ,they think they own the road and can do no wrong, I always see cyclists swerve around people crossing on zebra`s.

I know its horrible to say this, I am a "normal" average man and so are my friends and family BUT I would say 80% of us do not give a light about cyclists. This is because of their attitude in most cases.

I know cyclists are entitled to use the roads and should do so in safety BUT I really have to question their mind set when they put their kids in/on the child seat OR the fabric covered "towed trailer". What would happen if a car ran into the back of them? who would put their kids life at risk like that on a push bike, surely they have options to get to school ,like bus,walk.

Just my opinion

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