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Cambrian / Cambria Funfighter-----which to choose!

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martin collins 123/06/2019 13:21:05
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Ok maybe gonna start a bun fight here! I fancy building a Funfighter from one of these two companies, it will be electric powered and is going to be my Winter flyer when the grass is too long/wet for my ROG planes. I do not want a foamie before you all say they fly better/lighter etc as i prefer balsa planes that look as built for years rather than scuffed and chipped foam. Choice is between the Cambria KI-61 and the Cambrian ME109 as there are some very colourful scale schemes out there. Outright speed is not a consideration, i just want something i can launch myself, do some aeros with to keep my hand in and that doesn`t mind a bit of wind to fly in. Thoughts please.........

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Andy Blackburn23/06/2019 15:06:37
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I think the choice is probably a matter of taste, but the the Cambria kits tend to be more focused on outright speed and generally have thin wings (something similar to RG14, but somebody will no doubt correct me). The Cambrian kits generally have thicker wings (which look remarkably like Eppler E374) and the Hurricane that I have half-built (also for electric) has wings skinned in what looks like Beech veneer.

Build the one that you think looks best.

Dwain Dibley.23/06/2019 16:35:24
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Why choose..........................build 'em both Mate, twice the fun.

D.D.

Robert Parker23/06/2019 16:50:39
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Hi Martin,

I have built from both kit manufactures, way way back in the 90's I built a Cambrian ME109 very quick build if I remember correctly and was powered by IC from what I can recall the sides are from quite heavy ply.

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I also built a pre-production kit of the Cambria Zero again a fairly quick build and again IC powered a good flyer but not very forgiving in a stall and at low altitude - my fault not the kit.

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Overall both kits are very similar in construction.

The choice is yours

Hope this is of some assistance to you

regards

Robert

Jim Carss23/06/2019 18:12:26
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Martin

Just chucked this one together last week,Cambrian Hurricane,got given two kits,the Hurricane from Cambrian and a Spit. from Cambria so the Spit. is next.

Easy build kits,spares are readily available for the Cambrian models, eg. pair of foam wings £25 Decals £10 and canopies at £6.

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martin collins 123/06/2019 18:29:47
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Very nice Jim, how long did it take you to build, have you flown it yet and did you hand launch yourself?..........

Jim Carss23/06/2019 19:08:23
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Martin

Took about 3 weeks to build,not flown yet and it will have to be hand launched.

it will not be me doing the test flight,need someone with fast reactions I think.

The Cambria Spit shows optional u/c but these fun fighters don't look right with u/c dangling.

stay cool

Jim

martin collins 123/06/2019 19:52:20
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What did you cover with, leaning towards brown paper /pva......................

Jim Carss24/06/2019 09:57:45
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Dark green Solartex and a couple of coats of satin fuel proofer

Andrew Ray24/06/2019 10:34:45
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Jim, what motor are you using?

Martin, are you going IC or electric?

Tim Hickey24/06/2019 11:02:47
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Hi Guys,

I recently built the Cambrian Spitfire Funfighter.

Nice well produced kit, went together well with a couple of areas that require a little thought.

All set up with throws as recommended. Electric motor as shown in their advert.

First test flight was a mare. Got a pal to hand launch for me (went on 3rd try). Elevator is very sensitive but the ailerons were so strong it was pretty much uncontrollable. I managed about 4min flight time before I trashed it.

Really don't need much aileron throw on this kit and be sure to have a good amount of expo.

The plane when tamed would be absolutely brilliant and I would recommend it for an experienced pilot.

Maybe my reactions were not up to it and I got a bit disoriented...who knows.

Would like to build another one in the future.

Cheers

Tim

SIMON CRAGG24/06/2019 11:50:43
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I have had both the Spitfire and ME109. They were small, heavy and would tip stall easily. I found that a .25 was only just enough to pull it away from a decent han launch. Irvine .36 ended up as my weapon of choice. They were excellent if flown fairly quickly but took no prisoners!

Denis Watkins24/06/2019 12:03:46
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Ditch the Expo

Lads, if you want to fly one of these under control, then no expo

Set the ailerons, and elevator to about 5mm up, 5 mm down, then fly and make up your mind

You may even reduce these throws, once you have flown

Chris Walby24/06/2019 12:05:44
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I went for a Cambrian as I didn't know of the others (sorry and they are local to me! could have saved the P&P).

Nice kit of bits, instructions had a few extras/missing bits but not an issue and went together easily.

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Now here's my problem (mine) I wanted something fast, hence it high visibility colour scheme. I have totally maxed out my 1700KV 48A power train and it is not that fast....If you want fast try an EFXtra!

Good news is it flies very nicely, is tough as old boots and eats a lipo in under 4 minutes at full throttle.

Not so sure how much "fun" it will be in windy conditions

Next time I will go for the "other" manufacture (thinner wing section & local).

Jim Carss24/06/2019 13:40:48
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Andrew

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Andrew Ray24/06/2019 14:15:13
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Posted by Jim Carss on 24/06/2019 13:40:48:

Andrew

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Thanks.

martin collins 124/06/2019 15:00:10
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Going electric, i did have a Cambrian Spit donkeys years ago which had an i.c in it, was a bit on the weighty side but flew brill, i gather they have done away with the ply sides now and they are a bit lighter.........

Chris Walby24/06/2019 16:28:09
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Spec on mine is

Recommended 3536 1500-1000KV, actual 1800KV from HK, on a 9 x 6 prop, 46A, 488W, so power to weigh is 488W/1.280Kg = 381W/Kg

However it is an aerodynamic brick so flies much slower than models with far less power to weight and are more aerodynamic. wink

PS its a bit of a handful to hand launch with such a poky motor so best at 2/3 throttle and count 3 so the motor is not accelerating.

martin collins 125/07/2019 19:42:06
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Thanks Chris, is that on 3 or 4s?..........

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