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Cliff Newton 105/09/2019 21:18:13
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I'm in too and I have the short kit and the rest of the wood. Argentine Cruz del Sur aerobatic team version. Build log started but aren't we waiting until November to start?

Peter Miller06/09/2019 08:28:37
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I should have put this posting here so here goes.

While I am not involved in the mass build How about the Candian Aerobatic Team the Golden Hawks as a different and relatively easy colour scheme

McG 696906/09/2019 08:44:01
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Hello Peter,

If I remember well, Ade (Flyer) still has a few gallons of gold paint as a leftover from his A4 Skyhawk build...

I believe he's having plans to use the scheme of the Canadian Golden Hawks. smiley

Cheers

Chris

Flyer06/09/2019 09:10:45
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Yep, that's me. Has a few (!) tins of gold paint from my NZ 50th Anniversary A4

But this time I will NOT use the conservatory to spray the aircraft blush

Cheers

Ade

Steve Houghton12/09/2019 12:11:23
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Martin/Gordon,

Thanks for the delivery of my plan pack. Can I please confirm the thickness of the tailplane? The plan says two laminations of 3.18mm sheet but the typical cross section seems to show it as being 12mm thick (2x6mm).

Sorry if its a silly question, but I'm about to order the wood.

Regards,

Steve

Peter Garsden12/09/2019 19:30:48
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Has anyone done a wood list for this at all - it would certainly help? I will now look at the beta build but I can't remember seeing one. If I am wrong please ignore me.

Steve Houghton12/09/2019 20:42:05
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Pete,

There's a whole thread about the wood list:

Woodpack List

There's also a Gamma build thread.

John H. Rood01/10/2019 09:26:53
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1st October: Just 31 days before the mass-build maelstrom begins!

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Martin Gay09/10/2019 11:00:38
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Hi Steve,

During the Gamma build, it was noticed that the plan shows the tailplanes are made from 2 laminations of 1/8" balsa sheet.

THIS IS INCORRECT! it should be from two laminations of 1/4" as per the cross section.

Martin

Steve Houghton09/10/2019 15:44:47
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Hi Martin,

Thanks for the confirmation. I have been scouring similar plans, and noted that the Phase 5 AMT had 2 laminations of 3/16", with joining wires of 14g. You said on another thread that the F86 joiners were 8g (front) and 10g (rear), if I remember correctly. Aren't these a bit thick - I have never built an AMT so I am speaking from intuition rather than experience!

What will/have you used on the Gamma build?

Martin Gay09/10/2019 16:11:31
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Steve,

Those sizes are what were used on the prototype build. The Gamma build is the same.

These are the sizes we had available. You can always choose to fit smaller tubes/joiners!

Martin.

John H. Rood09/10/2019 18:51:02
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Posted by Steve Houghton on 09/10/2019 15:44:47:
”...Aren't these a bit thick...”

Steve, I doubt this will bring any further enlightenment to the subject, but... my wife, friends, colleagues, they all ask that same question about my powers of insight, analysis, and action.

🤣

LIFE boresighting

Photo c/o LIFE magazine archives.

Edited By John H. Rood on 09/10/2019 19:00:03

Steve Houghton09/10/2019 19:07:06
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Martin,

Thanks for the confirmation. I may go down a size, so watch out for my wobbly tailplane!

John, Great piccie!

No insight claimed - just a bad case of thinking I know more than I do! The designers always know better, according to Peter Miller's plan building article in the latest RCM&E special. As for action - I haven't finished my Hurricane mass build yet, so my powers are sadly lacking.

Martin Gay09/10/2019 21:10:41
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I wouldn't say the designers always know better!

Let's say, in this instance, the advertised joiners have performed as expected in 40+mph winds. They may be over engineered - but they work! wink 2

Phil Beard13/10/2019 18:41:14
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Dear All,

Now I've chosen my paint scheme as below:-

f86 sabre.jpg

Where do I find the information for the wings and tailplane?

All the Best

Phil Beard

Phil Cooke13/10/2019 20:00:46
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Hi Phil - you mean - where can you better determine the colourscheme?? I'm sure a search in Google for Frecce F-86 colours will quickly turn that up - its bound to be well modelled in plastic over the years.

The underside can be deferred from your image above, in that the entirety of the wing and tail panels are Green/White/Red as per the Italian flag!

Martin Gay13/10/2019 20:08:43
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Hi Phil,

Does this help:

https://aerobaticteams.net/en/resources/i104/Frecce-Tricolori-Canadair-CL-13-Sabre-Mk.4-Gallery.html

Edited By Martin Gay on 13/10/2019 20:09:38

Phil Cooke13/10/2019 20:10:10
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There are a few minor variations as the Sabre was flown for a number of seasons but regarding the wing and tail colours this is typical...frecce 3-view.jpg

Phil Beard13/10/2019 20:43:58
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Martin & Phil thanks for your input.

All the Best

Phil Beard

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