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i12fly16/08/2019 22:10:01
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Ah Piers, but Peter has been much more successful with his designs, not nose heavy and not requiring downthrust devil

kc17/08/2019 08:34:24
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I see that the RCME with original Dragon Dancer is available from Magazine Exchange but although it's a free plan issue it was not the Dragon Dancer but a different plan.

Paul C - there is a copy of the Firedrake issue of RCME with plan for sale if that is the plan you intend to build.

meanwhile we await Peter's 10,000th posting.......

Peter must also be one of the longest serving columnists in model mags - Millers Tales, Safety etc etc for decades.

Paul C.17/08/2019 08:48:49
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Thanks kc I am on the case 👍, I wonder what subject will be Peters 10,000 post will be ?

Paul.

Peter Miller17/08/2019 09:05:18
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I should be able to provide copies of all the plans published as full size plans. I can get them scanned ad PDF files.

The others I do not have copies of before I started getting them scanned. One of our club members does have all my old tracings going back a long way.He has more storage space than I do.

 

JUst for the record I looked at my lists an as far as I can say the score is:

Columns various 462

Articles 139

Product Reviews 63

Plans and drawings total 190 16 of these in the USA includes rehashed vintage models 3 views

178 original designs including published in two magazines

Grand Total of items not counting 5 books 854

Since 1974

10,000 up!!!!!"

Maybe I shopuld order a larger size in hats!!!!

Edited By Peter Miller on 17/08/2019 09:06:39

kc17/08/2019 10:21:49
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That's a most remarkable record Peter and unlikely to be equalled. I hope that writing and drawing all those articles and plans has given you as much satisfaction as it has given your readers and builders of your designs.

Peter Miller17/08/2019 10:38:36
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I love writing so that is a pleasure in its self. I love designing and building just because I do and have done ever since I started modelling.

The fact that magazines and publishers and readers like my work is a wonderful compliment for which I am very grateful.

Piers Bowlan17/08/2019 12:59:02
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Posted by kc on 17/08/2019 08:34:24:

I see that the RCME with original Dragon Dancer is available from Magazine Exchange but although it's a free plan issue it was not the Dragon Dancer but a different plan.

 

Dragon Dancer was featured with a build article in RCM&E Sep 1998, but not as a free plan, here. The plan is still available from Sarik Hobbies RM1868 here.

Edited By Piers Bowlan on 17/08/2019 13:11:38

kc17/08/2019 16:50:28
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Mentioning Dragon Dancer 2 in this thread could be a 'red herring' because the original Moon Dancer had a different wing section even though the wingtips and low aspect ratio make it seem similar. Moon Dancer article stated it was NACA 0015 while the Dragon Dancer 2 was not stated but looks quite different on the plan. Of course we don't yet know what Moon Dancer 2 will have for wing section so we must wait and see.......

Peter Miller17/08/2019 18:34:59
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Moon Dancer 2 has got NACA 3414 section.It works just like a symetrical section, it is just flat bottomed fromthe spar back for easier building. It is my standard section these days because I am lazy!!

To be honest I don't really go back to the older plans. I just draw a new plan that follows the general lay out with new span, chord, length and everything else. so they are all "based loosely on"

Edited By Peter Miller on 17/08/2019 18:39:16

Piers Bowlan17/08/2019 21:05:45
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You keep mentioning 'because I am lazy' but nobody believes you Peter! Not when you knock out a new plan every three months, even if it is 'based loosely on', occasionally. So this year, February we were treated to Little Miss Honky Tonk, June we had Li'l Cub, next month we will have Miss Deeds and by the end of the year, Moon Dancer 2, no doubt. I think you are slowing down Peter wink 2.

Peter Miller18/08/2019 08:01:41
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Well this year I also built a new version my old Waco PG2 again

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A kit from the 80s picked up cheap on Ebay,The Airwave ClubStar but that went together very quickly

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And I am working on a Guillows DH4 which will be 4 channel at 27" span although that one was sending me mad

But they are just pot boilers.

kc18/08/2019 13:11:25
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Curious that Peter should show a photo of his new Waco because just the other day when people were discussing Peter's number of designs I picked up a random copy of an RC mag and it contained his Waco! Later that day I turned on the TV and it was right in the middle of a programme - a bit of film showing lots of Waco's landing at Arnhem. Programme was World at War repeated. Magazine was RC Modeler Oct 95 ( US of course) but the plan was also in RC ModelWorld and now available from Sarik. Made me wonder whether publishing the same design but with different version plans ( due to redrawing) has been counted as just 1 plan in Peter's score........maybe the total is already 200 if we counted the separate versions!

It looks as though the new Waco and Clubstar are both electric?

Peter Miller18/08/2019 13:30:21
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I downloaded the plan from Outerzone. I didn't fancy paying for it.Admittedly I didn't ask if I could have a copy.

No. I counted it as two plans. The download is much coarser printing.

The original Waco had Coxes but was converted to Speed 400 electric motors. THis was covered in the article in RCM which is also on Outerzone.

The same plan was sent in but the American draughtsman put in American components such as horns etc. I did clear it with the RC Model World Editor before sending it in to RCM. In those days magazines were not as easily available on both sides of the pond.

The Clubstar was converted to electric power using the same power set up as the Ohmen.

Peter Miller20/08/2019 12:25:02
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Right! Started cutting wood on Thursday. 15th Aug

Fuselage basic construction started, and assembled with ply doublers. Seen here with the front turtle deck pieces.

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Here is the top bay which will hold the ESC.

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The under side of the nose showing the U/C mount, my standard system that has yet to fail, also the battery mount. The hatch is underneath because there was no way that I could arrange a hatch on top and still keep the canopy style that I wanted.

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The front Turtel dexck sides glued on vertically

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and rolled over and glued down. They were harder that I wante and it took a lot of wetting and high heat on the heat gun

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This is the taliplane plat form. I like a really strong tailplane mount as it is easy for them to be knocked.

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The wing is built in one piece on a 48" board.

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I make a slot inthe centre rib and put liteply sub ribs. This makes a very secure slot for the elading edge dowel.

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The top leading edge sheet goes on. I put the webs in front on the spar because this allows me to use masses of paper clips tohold the leading edge sheet down.The front is held down wth masses of map pins.

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This is a close up of the clamps

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So far so good.

Piers Bowlan20/08/2019 18:45:26
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Astonishingly fast work Peter. At this rate it will be finished by next weekend. So no dihedral?

Peter Miller20/08/2019 19:00:29
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No, No dihedral. that will be no problem..Miss Deeds had none and a few others in the past didn't.

The model is basically very simple but things willslow down a bit now

I once was asked to design and build a model and get the plans in in four weeks. I test flew it in three. That was for a plan in a Traplet plans catalogue.

Peter Miller24/08/2019 11:45:18
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Well, quite a bit of progress but a lot of the work is not as photogenic.

The rear turtle deck has been completed and the cockpit floor installed with the flat top to the front turtle deck.

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The fairing blocks for the fin are spot glued over scrap 1/4" sheet which takes the place of the fin and tailplane.

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Once shaped it can be split apart and you have two correctly shaped parts.

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The battery hatch is made from 1/16" ply. The formers hold it in shape to match the belly of the fuselage. The catch will be screwed to the shaped hardwood block it the front. Nylon pin hinges will be screwed to the rear end.These will be held the to fuselage with the front screws holding the U/C in place.

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The servo mounting locations in the fuselage are pretty basic. Plenty of room for larger servos here.

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The aileron servo mounts are just ply plates in the wing, they are inset so that not too much of the servo protrudes below the wing.

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top of the wing showing Holes for servo leads exits Cap strips still to be added.

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Chris North 330/08/2019 10:49:52
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Looking great Peter and plenty of great photos to help us along. Following with interest.

Peter Miller30/08/2019 10:51:01
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THanks Chris

Busy covering it at the moment.

Paul C.30/08/2019 11:19:33
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Looking good Peter 👍 I always find the covering stage of the build my least favourite part, I keep changing my mind on the colour and trim need to be more strict with myself I think 😁

Paul.

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