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Paul Jones 102/10/2019 17:35:11
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Hi guys, hoping you can help. I bought a second hand Spectrum DX6i with an AR6200 receiver, it was initially unresponsive, I was aware that I had no bind plug, one has now arrived in the post. I've tried binding, I've powered up the receiver, it's flashing correctly to indicate it's ready for binding, then I held down the TX trainer switch, turned on, and the TX indicates Binding..... but then nothing happens, the RX continues to flash, and the TX continues to say it's trying to bind, but seemingly it never does, I've sat for 5 minutes and nothing. Can anyone tell me what I might be doing wrong ?

Many Thanks

Paul

Denis Watkins02/10/2019 17:47:45
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Paul, have a look on your AR6200 and it should say DSMX2

Your DX6i could be DSMX, so incompatible

But if it is an early DX6i, then it may switch to both, so look for DSMX2 setting

Nigel R02/10/2019 17:51:12
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Have you tried outdoors, with some (10 ft plus) distance between TX and RX?

Indoors can be a little flaky sometimes.

Minor point to add to the above post - I don't believe there is a specific setting, I think the early model DX6i simply bound in DSMX mode if possible, or DSM2 if not. Later DX6i were DSMX only, as Denis says.

Paul Jones 102/10/2019 17:56:19
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its says DSM2 on it

Paul Jones 102/10/2019 18:01:39
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just tried again outside, and with a distance between RX and TX, and still no luck

Denis Watkins02/10/2019 18:15:49
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Paul, if this is a recent DX6i

It could be DSMX only.

There is a large X printed on the bottom right, in the black surround to the menu screen of the DSMX

There is a possibility of incompatibility here Paul

Paul Jones 102/10/2019 18:25:04
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the TX has the same orange DSM2 on it, printed on the case

kc02/10/2019 19:07:13
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kc02/10/2019 19:12:02
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The chart above shows settings you should use. It does not allow for the late type UK/EU spec DX6i etc which are DSMX only if imported after Jan 1 2015

Paul Jones 103/10/2019 08:16:31
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thanks for the replies, based on the chart above, all looks correct. I think I might have to take a trip down to my local flying field and ask advice ?

Kevin 21603/10/2019 08:32:02
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Posted by kc on 02/10/2019 19:12:02:

The chart above shows settings you should use. It does not allow for the late type UK/EU spec DX6i etc which are DSMX only if imported after Jan 1 2015

This also applies to earlier versions of Dx6i's sent back for repair after Jan 2015.

Don Fry03/10/2019 09:43:04
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Posted by Kevin 216 on 03/10/2019 08:32:02:
Posted by kc on 02/10/2019 19:12:02:

The chart above shows settings you should use. It does not allow for the late type UK/EU spec DX6i etc which are DSMX only if imported after Jan 1 2015

This also applies to earlier versions of Dx6i's sent back for repair after Jan 2015.

Now I thought that pre DSMX only units, i.e. Ones that does DSMX and DSM2, after repair still did both protocols. I certainly remember this was the position stated by the Horizon service people when they were UK based. Has it altered?

Peter Christy03/10/2019 11:39:13
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Possibly the case that if the RF board needs to be replaced, only DSM-X boards are available? (I have no inside information - just a guess!)

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Pete

Cuban803/10/2019 11:51:39
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One thing that's caught me out in the past with initial non-binding with a new RX is forgetting to plug in the satellite RX - I think I'm right in saying the 6200 comes with a satellite? Also, the satellite lead can fracture at the rather wimpy crimps in the tiny connector (no idea why they didn't use a standard servo plug/connector) this will look ok as the insulation appears fine but the conductor can (as I've found out) fail because the crimp strain relief part tends to crush it and break the wires - no binding and no reconnection. The Orange leads from Hobbyking and fleabay are much better than the OEM's in this case.

If the satellite lead fails in flight, there's not a problem, but the system won't reconnect next time you go to fly.

 

 

 

 

Edited By Cuban8 on 03/10/2019 12:00:54

Steve J03/10/2019 13:26:08
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Posted by Cuban8 on 03/10/2019 11:51:39:

I think I'm right in saying the 6200 comes with a satellite?

The 6200 came with a remote, but will operate without it.

Steve

Steve J03/10/2019 13:28:47
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Posted by Don Fry on 03/10/2019 09:43:04:

Now I thought that pre DSMX only units, i.e. Ones that does DSMX and DSM2, after repair still did both protocols. I certainly remember this was the position stated by the Horizon service people when they were UK based.

There have been stories of Spektrum service replacing dual protocol RF boards with DSMX only boards.

Steve

kc03/10/2019 13:34:07
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I wonder if it's possible the Rx has actually been bound all along! To check what actually happens - it's a year or two since I last did Spektrum- I went through the process as per the manual with a DX6i and the AR610Rx did flash after binding but eventully it worked OK when a servo was plugged in. The ESC played up a bit and confused the situation - didnt play the right tune until I operated the throttle up and down sequence a couple of times.

My DX6i is the later type ( post 2015 ) which is DSMX only but it still shows DSM2 as an option under Modulation Type in the Setup menu- but it wont work as DSM2- it's obviously been crippled in the software but not changed in the menus. So looking on the menu won't tell anyone whether it works on DSM2 !

Edited By kc on 03/10/2019 13:53:29

Hugh P03/10/2019 15:49:36
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I have my Timer switch set to Trainer in the setup menu on my DX6i. I have been caught out once trying to bind my AR6200 in that it would not bind until I set the switch to inhibit. Then it binds OK.angel

Edited By Hugh P on 03/10/2019 15:51:37

Cuban803/10/2019 15:54:08
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Posted by Steve J on 03/10/2019 13:26:08:
Posted by Cuban8 on 03/10/2019 11:51:39:

I think I'm right in saying the 6200 comes with a satellite?

The 6200 came with a remote, but will operate without it.

Steve

That's interesting. My early DSM2 and DSMX seven channel RXs would definitely require the remote plugged in but yes, it looks like some RXs will work OK without. A lot of confusion on other forums that I've just looked at re this.

Edited By Cuban8 on 03/10/2019 15:55:06

Steve J03/10/2019 16:08:45
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The AR7000 requires the remote.

The general rule is that if a Spektrum receiver comes with a remote, then it needs it to bind, but there are exceptions. The 7700 is another one that comes with a remote, but will bind without.

Steve

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