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Martin Harris11/11/2019 14:11:02
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As a precaution, I've downloaded my BMFA membership certificate and the relevant exemptions to my mobile phone. Nothing to fear from the boys in blue and no scraps of paper to blow away!

Gary Manuel11/11/2019 14:19:20
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That's a good idea Martin.

I'm useless with smart phones, but I'll try to do the same.

Chris Berry11/11/2019 14:34:49
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Posted by Andy Symons - BMFA on 11/11/2019 09:11:17:
Posted by Peter Christy on 11/11/2019 08:49:17:
Posted by Chris Berry on 11/11/2019 08:13:05:

Apologies if this question has already been answered but what is the situation with people who do not have any access to emails or computers?

Several of our members do not use computers or have email addresses.

As i understand it, in order to register\test everyone needs an email address.

Can this be clarified please?

Thanks

Edited By Chris Berry on 11/11/2019 08:24:54

I believe you can request a written version from the CAA.

This was one of the points I made in my written response to the consultation.

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Pete

Lack of email addresses is a problem via the CAA system, they are really not geared up to cope with the idea that people may not have an email address as their system requires a unique email address to register.

However the BMFA online test will eb available offline and it will also be possible to register via the BMFA for those that don't have an email address.

Some further in depth info will be going out to clubs in the next day or so.

Advice at the moment is to advice your members to be patient and not rush in to anything.

Thanks Andy.

Steve J11/11/2019 15:40:14
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Posted by Don Fry on 11/11/2019 11:07:09:

Anyway I think we are agreed, the CAA test is poorly written, published without much quality control, and of limited use.

It's a simple test that somebody can take before they commit aviation. It gives them a basic awareness of the law which is all that it is intended to do.

Edited By Steve J on 11/11/2019 15:43:16

Nigel Heather14/11/2019 17:44:32
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Plenty were telling us to wait until the 14th as there was some big meeting between the BMFA and the CAA - did it happen, has anything be heard yet?

Cheers,

Nigel

john stones 114/11/2019 17:57:40
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Posted by Nigel Heather on 14/11/2019 17:44:32:

Plenty were telling us to wait until the 14th as there was some big meeting between the BMFA and the CAA - did it happen, has anything be heard yet?

Cheers,

Nigel

Meeting was set for today, we'll get an update asap I would think.

Nigel Heather15/11/2019 10:00:30
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Posted by john stones 1 on 14/11/2019 17:57:40:
Posted by Nigel Heather on 14/11/2019 17:44:32:

Plenty were telling us to wait until the 14th as there was some big meeting between the BMFA and the CAA - did it happen, has anything be heard yet?

Cheers,

Nigel

Meeting was set for today, we'll get an update asap I would think.

Whoops, my mistake. I had lost track of the dates, I thought it was the 15th yesterday blush

Cheers,

Nigel

Steve J15/11/2019 10:24:07
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Andy S has posted elsewhere that the BMFA online test will go live on Monday.

Nigel Heather15/11/2019 12:58:51
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Posted by Steve J on 15/11/2019 10:24:07:

Andy S has posted elsewhere that the BMFA online test will go live on Monday.

Cool, thanks.

Do we know whether it is simply hosting the CAA question set or will be it be questions authored by the BMFA?

Cheers,

Nigel

cymaz15/11/2019 13:55:56
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Posted by Gary Manuel on 11/11/2019 14:19:20:

That's a good idea Martin.

I'm useless with smart phones, but I'll try to do the same.

I have a hard copy of the exemption with me which I showed to fellow club mates. They promptly took photos of it with their iphones

Chris Berry15/11/2019 13:57:52
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Meeting was yesterday so the associations will need some time to compile an update.

I think the BMFA test/quiz will be different to the CAA and in think it goes live on Monday.

Chris Berry15/11/2019 13:58:45
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Posted by cymaz on 15/11/2019 13:55:56:
Posted by Gary Manuel on 11/11/2019 14:19:20:

That's a good idea Martin.

I'm useless with smart phones, but I'll try to do the same.

I have a hard copy of the exemption with me which I showed to fellow club mates. They promptly took photos of it with their iphones

Club hut is where our copies will be

MattyB15/11/2019 15:24:47
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Looks like the buddy box question has been answered in our favour - from Andy Symons on FB...

"Productive CAA meeting yesterday. No exemption required for buddy box flights. The CAA fully accept the BMFA position that the person holding the slave TX is neither the operator or remote pilot.

Of course the aircraft will need a valid Op Id on it and the person on the master TX must hold a competency."

robert feltham15/11/2019 15:37:14
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Reading all of this and looking at all the hoops to jump through now I for one will be selling all my gear and moving to another hobby. I'm just fed up with it all I'm afraid. Flying RC for over 40 years. Hobby ruined by so called drones.

bert baker15/11/2019 15:38:35
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It’s not that bad

leccyflyer15/11/2019 15:43:29
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Posted by robert feltham on 15/11/2019 15:37:14:

Reading all of this and looking at all the hoops to jump through now I for one will be selling all my gear and moving to another hobby. I'm just fed up with it all I'm afraid. Flying RC for over 40 years. Hobby ruined by so called drones.

Do you have anything decent that you want to sell?

Use the Classified Ads section on here and those who aren't going to give up on the hobby might be able to pick up a bargain. yes

bert baker15/11/2019 15:46:39
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Posted by MattyB on 15/11/2019 15:24:47:

Looks like the buddy box question has been answered in our favour - from Andy Symons on FB...

"Productive CAA meeting yesterday. No exemption required for buddy box flights. The CAA fully accept the BMFA position that the person holding the slave TX is neither the operator or remote pilot.

Of course the aircraft will need a valid Op Id on it and the person on the master TX must hold a competency."

Cool,,, I pleased with that,,, but I couldn’t find it on face book

cymaz15/11/2019 15:48:47
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Posted by bert baker on 15/11/2019 15:46:39:
Posted by MattyB on 15/11/2019 15:24:47:

Looks like the buddy box question has been answered in our favour - from Andy Symons on FB...

"Productive CAA meeting yesterday. No exemption required for buddy box flights. The CAA fully accept the BMFA position that the person holding the slave TX is neither the operator or remote pilot.

Of course the aircraft will need a valid Op Id on it and the person on the master TX must hold a competency."

Cool,,, I pleased with that,,, but I couldn’t find it on face book

That’s good news. Something else to report at the club meetin ( no G .....it’s nearly 4:15clock)

Chris Berry15/11/2019 15:53:11
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Posted by robert feltham on 15/11/2019 15:37:14:

Reading all of this and looking at all the hoops to jump through now I for one will be selling all my gear and moving to another hobby. I'm just fed up with it all I'm afraid. Flying RC for over 40 years. Hobby ruined by so called drones.

What hoops are those then?

£9 and if you need to answer a multiple choice quiz.

john stones 115/11/2019 15:53:44
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Posted by MattyB on 15/11/2019 15:24:47:

Looks like the buddy box question has been answered in our favour - from Andy Symons on FB...

"Productive CAA meeting yesterday. No exemption required for buddy box flights. The CAA fully accept the BMFA position that the person holding the slave TX is neither the operator or remote pilot.

Of course the aircraft will need a valid Op Id on it and the person on the master TX must hold a competency."

Great news, well done folks.

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