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Pete B - Moderator09/12/2019 21:21:53
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If you mean the glider in your avatar, Michael, it would be better to post the original-sized pic in a new thread in the gliding section and ask there. Better to keep this thread on-topic, thanks....thumbs up

Pete

Michael Adams 310/12/2019 10:23:47
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Hi Pete, thanks will do, laugh

Mike.

Keith Evans 310/12/2019 13:25:03
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I have only recently returned from a 2 month vacation in the States ,so forgive me for not trawling back through all the issues , regarding this topic , as my question may already have been answered .

I understand the requirement not to fly above 400 ft. but having no telemetry , how will I know if my 60 inch span trainer is at , under or over 400 ft ?

I've tried guessing how many "houses" high it is , but to no avail .Short of doing some trigonometry and holding a rule at arms length when flying to measure the wingspan , I have come to a dead end ! !

What do others do and how accurate are the results ? Or is it a case of if I can't see it , it must be over 400 ft. ! !

Keith

Martin Harris10/12/2019 13:34:31
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Your 60" trainer will be more than 3 mistakes high at 400' but if you're a BMFA or equivalent member you are exempt from this limit.

If you want to know, ask a clubmate with an altimeter equipped model of a similar size to demonstrate 400' or perhaps someone would temporarily install a telemetry set-up in your model?

Steve J10/12/2019 14:16:04
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Posted by Keith Evans 3 on 10/12/2019 13:25:03:

I understand the requirement not to fly above 400 ft. but having no telemetry , how will I know if my 60 inch span trainer is at , under or over 400 ft ?

Install Google Earth on your computer. Look out of your window and pick a few things around 5ft that you think are 100m and 200m away. Check the distances with Google Earth. After a couple of iterations you will have a feel for what 5ft looks like.

Jason-I10/12/2019 15:05:03
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Posted by Steve J on 10/12/2019 14:16:04:

Install Google Earth on your computer. Look out of your window and pick a few things around 5ft that you think are 100m and 200m away. Check the distances with Google Earth. After a couple of iterations you will have a feel for what 5ft looks like.

Or you could just place the model on the ground, take 120 strides away from it and see how big it looks.....

(120 strides ~ 120m ~ 400ft)

Edited By Jason-I on 10/12/2019 15:08:14

Tim Flyer10/12/2019 15:51:43
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Re carrying the exemption certificates. I think we will do it the easy way at my club and laminate a copy and put it on our clubhouse notice board plus we have encouraged most members to buy the new BMFA plastic card so it should be no problem if we are checked.

Edited By Tim Flyer on 10/12/2019 15:52:20

Andy Symons - BMFA10/12/2019 18:57:14
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Posted by Tim Flyer on 10/12/2019 15:51:43:

Re carrying the exemption certificates. I think we will do it the easy way at my club and laminate a copy and put it on our clubhouse notice board plus we have encouraged most members to buy the new BMFA plastic card so it should be no problem if we are checked.

Edited By Tim Flyer on 10/12/2019 15:52:20

I have put the copies that came in the magazine in my glove box.

RC Plane Flyer11/12/2019 11:56:59
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So the CAA has raised over £542700 during November registration 60300 persons

Tim Flyer11/12/2019 14:27:08
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Just one matter regarding junior members . We have a few juniors soon to be joining our club . I realise juniors (<18s) cannot register with CAA and their parent/flying instructor  is supposed to . For juniors with non flying parents I guess as they will initially be using buddy boxes with registered club members as instructors they do not need to take competency test . However once flying solo do they need to have their guardian ( even if a non flyer register) . I would appreciate any clarification.

Edited By Tim Flyer on 11/12/2019 14:30:32

MattyB11/12/2019 14:53:21
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Yes, the legal Operator of that aircraft has to register it and ensure the Operator number is displayed on it when in use. That Operator could be a parent/guardian, or it could be a fellow club member if they are prepared to take the role of the legal Operator on behalf of the Junior until they are adults.

Edited By MattyB on 11/12/2019 14:54:54

Dickw11/12/2019 14:54:55
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Before flying solo they need to take a competency test.

Any model they fly needs to have an "operator number" on it which will be the number of a registered person - either parent / guardian or some willing person in the club. I can see nothing about the operator having to be a "flyer".

Dick

Matty beat me, but at least we agree!

Edited By Dickw on 11/12/2019 14:56:04

Steve J11/12/2019 15:01:45
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Posted by Dickw on 11/12/2019 14:54:55:

I can see nothing about the operator having to be a "flyer".

They don't. This page on the CAA website makes that clear.

**LINK**

Steve J11/12/2019 15:03:31
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Posted by RC Plane Flyer on 11/12/2019 11:56:59:

So the CAA has raised over £542700 during November registration 60300 persons

It will be interesting to see what the numbers are in March. It's looking like less than a third of operators will be members of the four associations.

Tim Flyer11/12/2019 16:36:04
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Cheers chaps thank You Very helpful 😊 . Thats confirmed what I had thought. It’s great getting some new junior members at the club too👍

gangster11/12/2019 17:36:16
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I renewed BMFA and CAA registered the first tranche of club members yesterday. All credit to the BMFA the system worked so smoothly.

Colin Naylar11/12/2019 17:56:19
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So, I'm a lone country member flying in a neighbour's field. If I take a friend to watch and he asks to have a go, does he have to have passed the online test and paid the £9 ?

Martin Harris11/12/2019 18:10:54
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Yes if you hand him your transmitter but no if you have him on a buddy box.

Don Fry11/12/2019 18:17:42
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Is it REALY so prescriptive. Do the regulations state a absolute master, or a bit more general, under supervision. Genuinely interested.

Steve J11/12/2019 18:18:26
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Posted by Colin Naylar on 11/12/2019 17:56:19:

If I take a friend to watch and he asks to have a go, does he have to have passed the online test and paid the £9 ?

Test - yes; £9 - no.

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