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Chris McG F-86 Sabre Dog build blog

my first attempt to a soaring bird for the PSSA MB 2020?

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McG 696901/11/2019 08:47:04
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Hi Paul,

Thanks for visiting.

This is my first PSS bird as well and I'm a bit curious about the scenery at the Great Orme, together with having a beer at Drew Pritchard's favourite pubs. That is if the Sabre gets ready in time of course... indecision

Regarding Gaston, I still have to look for him in La Grotte as it's a long time ago since my last build. Let's hope he's not in his deep winter sleep. wink

Always welcome to visit the thread with some comments or questions, young man.

@ Alan > indeed there must have been some magical and romantic moments over there as they married within five weeks. I just hope they were not designing that 'Mighty Mouse' rocket rack at the time...

Hakuna matata

Chris

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dirk tinck01/11/2019 23:57:57
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Hi Chris,........ready ?? Let's show them how it's done !

McG 696902/11/2019 09:20:34
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Auww... I wouldn't be that brave as for myself, Dirk.

I have very little modelling experience and know close to nothing regarding PSS. blush

But I'll try to learn as fast as possible to proudly represent the Belgian team... cool

Hakuna matata

Chris

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McG 696903/11/2019 09:33:37
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Hello to all,

To assist myself with (or against) my upcoming insanity, I decided to buy a Revell kit of the F-86D at 1:48 scale.

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This kit gets a lot of positive reviews from clearly ‘fanatic’ modellers, exception made for the rudder trim tab which is too wide and tall as it was for the 45 first built Dogs (like the ‘early’ full size example of the USAF Museum which served for the measures of the kit). The trim tab shown on the box art seems to be the correct one for all the later ones … well, hum… er… wink

I’m aware of Andy Meade’s opinion about those “artists impressions, or how a CAD monkey might perceive the full size”. I’m convinced he might be right, but how do I get to a full size F-86D or K to have a walkaround? … sad

I noticed that even 'our' Dirk T had a plastic kit for 'reference' when creating the fuselage of his mighty Fouga Magister back in 2016... cool

I guess I will have a (Belgian) compromise between the kit measurements and the - being “artists impressions” as well - three view drawings I’ve already got.

As a matter of fact, all of the drawings - amazing deco schemes included - we can find searching the net are “artist impressions”, ain’t it? …

Hakuna matata

Chris

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dirk tinck03/11/2019 12:59:09
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You're right Chris,i do like the idea having a reference by the hand in the form of a platic static scale model.

Usually the panel lines etc.are not far off eather !!

McG 696904/11/2019 10:24:55
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Well, that makes two of us at least, Dirk. wink

... ooh sjeesh... "panel lines"... ? ... Do you want me to have some panel lines on my Sabre?

So far, I only had a hesitating try by scoring some alu foil on a small Depron 'test' piece of wing.

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I guess you will have to explain me in due time then.

Did you have a start on your Sabre already?

Hakuna matata

Chris

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dirk tinck04/11/2019 22:36:19
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Hi Chris,havent started my sabre yet,but will soon,just having a hard time putting my fouga on the shelf...My fuse plug is just about ready to primer, my rudder is ready to paint,etc...Just have to think how much fun the mass build is and i'll be fine.😋

McG 696905/11/2019 09:28:09
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Hi Dirk et all,

Looking forward to reading your build thread soon then... and 'pinch' as much tricks as possible. angel

As Phil stated there are now more than 70 plan/kits distributed and I'm wondering why there are not more build blogs started. Only a (large) handful so far and we're already in the 5th day after the start of it... frown

Come on, Gentlemen... start your scalpels...

Cheers

Chris

McG 696906/11/2019 13:44:34
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Hi to all,

After a looong period of heavy pondering, I finally made up my mind regarding my build example.

As the ‘unguided’ rockets software protocol of the F-86D was considered ‘Classified’ and could not be exported, NA decided in removing the belly rocket ‘pack’, replacing it with four 20mm M24A1 cannons and installing the APG-37 radar system. These modifications resulted finally in a quite effective, fast dog fighter… and became the F-86K ‘sold’ to the NATO friends.

sabre dog dutch q-259_01_861.jpg

The Royal Netherlands Air Force (Koninklijke Luchtmacht) acquired a total of 63 - 57 U.S.-built and 6 Fiat-built - NATO type F-86K Sabres in 1955 & 1956. They were assigned to three squadrons, the Sq.700, Sq.701 & Sq.702 and were operated until 1964.

My MB 2020 ‘project’ will be - the US-built - Q-259 formerly based at Soesterberg, pictured above and hereunder during an engine test.

sabre dog dutch q-259_02_861.jpg

Hakuna matata

Chris

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Martin Gay06/11/2019 14:11:29
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Chris,

I hope you plan to fit a tail section!!

wink

McG 696906/11/2019 17:26:31
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No worries, Martin,

As I followed your advice and bought the 48" balsa sheets, I guess I would be able to complete the aft-fuselage as well... cool

But then I could also decide to just have a Static Display model and present a nice scale example of the upgraded J47-GE-17 jet engine. wink

Hakuna matata

Chris

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Mark Kettle 107/11/2019 06:43:57
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Hi MCG 6969, here's a couple of walkarounds I've found as you ask for in a earlier entry in this thread.

F86 D 30 Sabre Dog

F-86K

Chris Barlow07/11/2019 17:23:21
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Welcome aboard Chris. The Great Orme is definitely worth the trip if you can make it. yes

McG 696907/11/2019 17:24:36
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Hi Mark,

That's very kind of you to remember and to forward them. yes

I guess I'll better have another look on YT for some more.

Anyhow they will be of great help for those naughty curves of the engine intake.

Cheers

Chris

 

Edited By McG 6969 on 07/11/2019 18:17:07

McG 696907/11/2019 17:28:23
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Thanks Chris,

I hope to be ready in time with the bird and be able to visit Llandudno and the Orme next June.

Cheers

Chris

McG 696908/11/2019 10:47:46
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Hi again,

Here is a more recent picture of my subject’s ‘brother’ Q-305 preserved in the Soesterberg Museum.

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As you all will notice later on, the deco scheme is to be ‘slightly’ modified…

Hakuna matata

Chris

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McG 696909/11/2019 18:22:50
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Hello to all,

I took the decision to give the pondering part - the Dog formers and keels redrawing - a rest for a while…

… and to start the ‘knock on wood’ part of the build.

The wing part of the plan was cut, taped to the board, covered with plastic film and I even thought of drawing some extensions for the ribs and spars for later use. wink

Gaston assisted me in getting the different kit parts sorted in their respective trays so we could start with the sanding/filing of the wing jig parts.

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First a little fettling was needed to get the male plugs & the female lugs fitting together.

The parts needed for J2, J3 and J4 were then glued together and taped to an alu profile to keep them flat and straight whilst drying.

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As I’m a convinced fan of Deluxe Aliphatic wood glue, it is best to leave the bits drying overnight.

Not a problem really as we have a lot of jig pieces to prepare… angel

Hakuna matata

Chris

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McG 696910/11/2019 18:44:08
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Hi again,

Next was to check the fitting of the lugs and dry assemble the wing jig over the plan.

I don’t exactly know why but I started to glue the center section first, followed by the odd numbered rib supports on both port and starboard sides…

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I also used some square off cuts of cork pinned to the board to keep the bits at the right place and to check the squareness of the jig structure before applying glue.

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Slow progress of course, but thanks to Martin’s fine kit, I’ll be getting there…

Hakuna matata

Chris

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McG 696911/11/2019 09:20:56
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Hello to all,

Well, here we go: I’ll ask my two first ‘daft’ questions angel >

- following Phil’s advice, I’m making my lower wing sheets with an extra 10mm at the LE, wing tip and TE. Assuming they are the same, can I prepare my upper wing sheets now while the wing plan is still on the board?

- regarding the servo wires for flaps & elevators I don’t see any provisions for those - paper tubes, straws or just holes – in the build threads so far. Shouldn’t it be easier to have some holes in the ribs before gluing them in?

Thanks to Chris B for his ‘beginners’ planking tips in his blog.  yes  

Hakuna matata

Chris

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Edited By McG 6969 on 11/11/2019 09:24:57

McG 696911/11/2019 18:46:51
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... well, there mustn't be a living PPS guru out there somehow... crying

... probably a wrong date to ask some non-existential questions, probably?

Cheers

Chris

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