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Colin Carpenter17/01/2020 10:32:10
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We must all be asking the same question? Where have they all come from bearing in mind I thought there were only 40k of us old farts flying!! Colin

kevin b17/01/2020 11:00:42
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Posted by Colin Carpenter on 17/01/2020 10:32:10:

We must all be asking the same question? Where have they all come from bearing in mind I thought there were only 40k of us old farts flying!! Colin

It will include all those who use a drone for work, such as estate agents, the emergency services, civil engineers, councils, schools, farmers, etc.

Steve J17/01/2020 11:55:36
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The FoI response that Chris Berry posted on the 19th December (previous page of this topic) has 3k organisations registering.

It is looking like association members are going to account for less than a third of recreational operator registrations.

Peter Jenkins17/01/2020 16:38:54
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Posted by Colin Carpenter on 17/01/2020 10:32:10:

We must all be asking the same question? Where have they all come from bearing in mind I thought there were only 40k of us old farts flying!! Colin

Don't forget that the majority of BMFA members who have chosen to register through the BMFA have yet to be included in the CAA figures as the BMFA is not due to submit our names till after 31 Jan 2020. So, by the end of Feb there is bound to be a big increase in registrations. I think the SAA, LMA and FPV(UK) are also treading the same path as the BMFA.

stevejet6617/01/2020 17:50:43
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I think all you lot need to get a life, I just think a lot of you if not most lead a very very sad life as professional keyboard warriors all day playing, Mr policeman, Solicitor, Politicians And the mr do gooder, Now Lets simplify all this,

Go to CAA website,

Register

Take test

Print docs off

Go fly

Alan Gorham_17/01/2020 17:58:21
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Lovely sentiments Steve, but it's easier than that:

-Tick box on BMFA portal when rejoining to advise them to register you,

-Don't take test as already hold a BMFA cert which is recognised by the CAA as proof of competence.

-Wait until CAA email with the operators number.

-Carry the pre-printed exemption notices that the BMFA kindly supplied in the last BMFA news.

So it seems you have over-complicated things as well as been insulting!

Don Fry17/01/2020 18:04:40
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Stevejet might have a point, I'm making a pizza, forgot to put yeast in the dough. Spotted, and corrected, but a sign of deterioration.

Latest hack exceeds 1 horse a kilogram. That might rekindle a brain cell or two.

Alan Gorham_17/01/2020 18:21:32
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I wish I understood 10% of what you wrote there Don.

kevin b17/01/2020 19:11:14
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Posted by stevejet66 on 17/01/2020 17:50:43:

I think all you lot need to get a life, I just think a lot of you if not most lead a very very sad life as professional keyboard warriors all day playing, Mr policeman, Solicitor, Politicians And the mr do gooder, Now Lets simplify all this,

Go to CAA website,

Register

Take test

Print docs off

Go fly

Aw Steve, your no fun.

What have you got against the BMFA ?

Regarding your last comment, I would love to, but due to all those Americans eating cows and digging up fossil fuels (as well as other people), we have had very little opportunity in my area to do so for the last year or so. currently it seems that the only time we have dry weather and the wind is low is during the hours of darkness !

It's interesting that the latest copy of RCM&E has an article about model boats. There hasn't been one of those for years ! There again you can sail boats when it is raining, or a bit breezy (and you don't need to take a test to say that you are aware of the rules - even if you haven't read them).

cheeky

Denis Watkins17/01/2020 19:37:09
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Posted by Alan Gorham_ on 17/01/2020 18:21:32:

I wish I understood 10% of what you wrote there Don.

Alan, no wonder we don't get it

Don does a great job using a French translator app

Usually you have no clue that he has done so

Don Fry17/01/2020 21:06:25
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No, the philosophy is exact, but the correct tipple is a necesity. What is a good pizza, without lubrication.

Gary Manuel17/01/2020 22:07:24
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Posted by Colin Carpenter on 17/01/2020 10:32:10:

We must all be asking the same question? Where have they all come from bearing in mind I thought there were only 40k of us old farts flying!! Colin

No - there are 40k old farts who have voluntarily joined UK clubs and associations.

There are many more old farts out there who did not see the need to join clubs and associations, but were happy to fly in their local parks without insurance etc. They were doing nothing wrong and were flying quite legally.

The law has now changed and they want to carry on flying legally. £9 is the sum total of their annual outlay to keep the law off their case. I have spoken to a number of them in our local park and they consider £9 a small price to pay. It's not a big deal to them.

Steve J18/01/2020 09:59:25
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Posted by stevejet66 on 17/01/2020 17:50:43:

Go to CAA website,

Register

Take test

Print docs off

Go fly

I agree. The BMFA should not have got involved with DMARES.

kevin b18/01/2020 10:38:03
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Posted by Steve J on 18/01/2020 09:59:25:
Posted by stevejet66 on 17/01/2020 17:50:43:

Go to CAA website,

Register

Take test

Print docs off

Go fly

I agree. The BMFA should not have got involved with DMARES.

Why not ?

Does it involve model flying ?

Does it involve education to do with model flying ?

Does it have the potential to improve take up of our declining hobby ?

I am asking questions, not making a statement.

If the answers to any of them are yes, then of course the British Model Flying Association (no acronym) should show an interest. Most of the members (other than those who join for the cheap insurance) would agree, but there again. "What did the Romans do for us ?"

Martin Harris18/01/2020 10:55:15
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Isn't the point of the organisations getting involved to distance "serious" modellers from the "buy a drone and fly it down the street" brigade? It would appear that the CAA have been sufficiently impressed by the attitudes and competencies of them and their individual members to grant several exemptions and concessions.

Why would the CAA allow the organisations to collect registrations on their behalf unless it was of some benefit to them? Working with, rather than against or despite the regulator must add to the relationship.

EvilC5719/01/2020 16:27:11
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Posted by Martin Harris on 18/01/2020 10:55:15:

Isn't the point of the organisations getting involved to distance "serious" modellers from the "buy a drone and fly it down the street" brigade?

Thinking of them; I've just been dragged around the local Lidl by Mrs EvilC57, and noticed that where the £49.95 drones were last week, there is now an empty drone box, and a sign above saying that "If you wish to buy this item please speak to a member of staff, who will be happy to assist you.".

So it looks as though maybe at least Lidl are aware that they need to advise any of the prospective "buy a drone and fly it down the street" brigade, that they need to be aware of the legislation first.

kc19/01/2020 16:54:16
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It would seem the BMFA have already submitted some names to the CAA as some of my fellow club members have their numbers already wihile others have not. I assumed it might be due to alphabetical order but on checking the names it seems not. The club have paid BMFA all at the same time so thats not the reason. Perhaps some other order like BMFA number order?

AndyD19/01/2020 17:00:36
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spoken to three people this week two who are work friends and all now have drones and not one new about the new laws and have no intention about registering so looks like a losing battle to me.

Andy Symons - BMFA19/01/2020 17:04:58
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Posted by kc on 19/01/2020 16:54:16:

It would seem the BMFA have already submitted some names to the CAA as some of my fellow club members have their numbers already wihile others have not. I assumed it might be due to alphabetical order but on checking the names it seems not. The club have paid BMFA all at the same time so thats not the reason. Perhaps some other order like BMFA number order?

No data sent to the CAA yet, any of your members with operator.ids must have gone direct to the CAA

EvilC5719/01/2020 18:20:39
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Posted by AndyD on 19/01/2020 17:00:36:

spoken to three people this week two who are work friends and all now have drones and not one new about the new laws and have no intention about registering so looks like a losing battle to me.

Doesn’t surprise me at all. I’ve said all along, that the people most likely to register are those (us) who are least likely to offend. There must be thousands who buy drones on a whim, and know nothing of the CAA, BMFA or any regulations.

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