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leccyflyer26/01/2020 08:35:52
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I've read the thread and have a simple question. What does this mean for users of the pre-Taranis series of Frsky modules and receivers, such as the V8-FRII, V4-FRII and D8-FRII - I have quite a few of these in operation, don;t use telemetry at all and they have been working very well for years.

I assume that if I do nothing to the existing kit that they'll just keep on working and will be fully legal? Will those RXs be discontinued or will they fail to work with the old modules in the event that I buy more of them in the future?

Mike Blandford26/01/2020 09:15:17
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All 'V; and 'D' series modules and receivers are unaffected. If purchased (or imported) before Jan 2015 then it is fully legal.

The DFT/DJT modules are no longer legal to be imported into Europe, but may be sold if imported before then.

Mike

leccyflyer26/01/2020 09:21:24
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Thanks Mike - that's good news.

Peter Christy26/01/2020 09:25:12
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As far as I'm aware, D8 and V8 (the original, non-telemetry system) are unaffected by this glitch. I too have quite a bit of D8 gear!

The legal position of D8 is a bit of a grey area! Under "grandfather rights", if you purchased your transmitter before January 2015, D8 is perfectly legal. (There was a "transition period", but lets keep it simple!)

If you bought your Tx AFTER Jan 2015, then you are probably breaching EU regs if you use D8. However, this would only be a problem in the highly unlikely event of someone actually checking!

I'm happily using D8 "hack" modules to convert vintage transmitters, and would quite happily argue my case in court should it ever come to that! Frankly, Ofcom have far more important things to worry about.

Also, I believe that, post-brexit, should the BMFA and the other organisations request it, there is a reasonable chance that the current restrictions on pre-2015 specification gear could be lifted. At present, Ofcom's hands are tied by EU regulations, but otherwise their policy is to grant use provided none of the other stakeholders (other users of the band) objects. Since 2.4 GHz is unlicensed, there really shouldn't be an issue. But note that this is my *personal* opinion!

That covers the legal aspects, I think. Moving on to the practical issues, I haven't updated my systems yet - and don't intend to for a while as, so far, I haven't had an issue! I've learned the hard way never to use "version 1.0" of any software! Wait for the first batch of updates to come along! Having said that, MikeB - who does an awful lot of work on this, and is better qualified than I on this subject, says that the upgrade doesn't affect D8 in the transmitters, but *does* prevent X-series receivers from being forced into D8 mode. Again, its possible that a future firmware revision may fix this.

Hope this helps!

(Mike posted whilst I was writing this! smiley )

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Pete

 

Edited By Peter Christy on 26/01/2020 09:26:05

leccyflyer26/01/2020 09:55:13
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My Frsky DFT module was purchased in 2010 and is fitted to a Futaba FF9 tx that I currently use for all of my gliders (11 rxs)and a small number of powered models (10 rxs), my main system for the vast majority of models is Spektrum - DX7 and DX9 (33rx). I wouldn't want to unecessarily replace a large number of receivers, even if they are relatively inexpensive.

Peter Christy26/01/2020 09:58:04
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You're fine! Keep Calm and Carry On!

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John Wagg28/01/2020 14:40:05
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Utube :-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez91IT_mc-I

Tim Ballinger29/02/2020 12:56:23
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Does anyone know if the D16 access firmware update story has progressed at all. I see no new firmware listed since this all started on 16 Jan. Nothing new on the FrSky site . Nothing new on RC group chat either that I can see.

I have still not implemented the upgrade but am about to buy a new Rx and was just wandering what firmware they will be sold with. Perhaps I’ll drop a line to T9 if no one on here knows the status.

Tim

Bob Cotsford29/02/2020 13:50:38
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As a result of the situation in China things haven't been progressing very quickly from what I can gather. I'd imagine that those who can have been working from home but without access to a full set of test gear so I'm not expecting anything for a week or two.

I bought an RXSR and an RX4R from T9 this last week and both worked with my X12 without needing firmware downgrades.

Tim Ballinger29/02/2020 15:24:05
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Bob,

Thats pretty much as I was thinking/expecting. Thanks for the info on new Rx purchases.

Tim

Mike Blandford29/02/2020 19:24:59
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FrSky released some "V2" ACCST firmware just before the Chinese New Year, but this had some problems, particularly with early XJT modules (internal or external). Due to restrictions, caused by the Virus situation, the engineers have been working from home since. I have received a couple of updates to test on my early modules, and some of the issues have been solved, but not all.

Mike

Tim Ballinger01/03/2020 08:49:34
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Mike,

Many thanks for the update Mike.

Tim

Gary Manuel16/03/2020 21:26:37
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A quick question:

Is there any way of determining what current version of Horus 12s RF firmware or X8R firmware are installed. I recently acquired a second hand 2s and 4 x X8R receivers and can't get them to bind. I would like to know what version they are at before I start updating.

Andy4816/03/2020 21:58:16
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Don't think so, but probably best to simply update them all to the latest version anyway.

Gary Manuel16/03/2020 22:52:18
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You're probably right Andy. Not sure about the very latest one (as per this thread) but maybe the LBT one before that?

Gary Manuel16/03/2020 23:02:35
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Sorry but I have another question.

Where do I get the older internal RF firmware from. Frsky website only appears to have the very latest version.

Kevin Fairgrieve17/03/2020 07:05:15
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https://hobby4life.nl/?page_id=24

 

Please note this is for X10 and X12 only.

 

I am holding off still on doing any "upgrade" other than to the latest Open TX 2.3.5

 

Kev

 

 

Edited By Kevin Fairgrieve on 17/03/2020 07:09:07

Gary Manuel17/03/2020 07:18:51
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Thanks Kevin.

That's exactly what I was looking for yes

Gary Manuel17/03/2020 14:32:14
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All done and 4 x X8R receivers now working OK. Looks like previous owner flashed receivers and transmitter with non-matching firmware.

I can confirm that X12S_EU_1_6_06_iXJT.frk (X12S EU/LBT v1.6.06 from KEVIN'S LINK)

works OK with X8R_EU_build1702102.frk (2017-03-07 /170210 from FRSKY X8R DOWNLOAD PAGE)

This will give you the latest matching pair before the January 2020 update.

 

Edit - for completeness, I can also confirm that with this firmware, the X8R's also work OK with Jumper 4in1 External Multiprotocol Module (v1.3.0.53) - set to FrSky / LBT 8ch.

Edited By Gary Manuel on 17/03/2020 14:54:13

Andy4817/03/2020 18:13:12
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Oh well now you know why he sold the radio. laugh

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