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Tim Ballinger24/03/2020 12:03:38
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Out of interest I connected to the S port on the back of my Horus 10X just to see what voltage was on it. Can not say I understand the result, it started at 4.5V then slowly decayed to zero. Turned the Tx off then on again and it recharged as it were then decayed to zero again.

Anyone bored enough to explain that to me?

Tim

Andy4824/03/2020 12:35:02
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Posted by Tim Ballinger on 24/03/2020 12:03:38:

Out of interest I connected to the S port on the back of my Horus 10X just to see what voltage was on it. Can not say I understand the result, it started at 4.5V then slowly decayed to zero. Turned the Tx off then on again and it recharged as it were then decayed to zero again.

Anyone bored enough to explain that to me?

Tim

I will check my two when I have finished the list of jobs SWMBO has decreed I do today.

Mike Blandford24/03/2020 12:38:49
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The SPort power is switched, in the same way the module power is switched under software control. It is only turned on when you are actually flashing a device, and then only at the correct time in the operation so the device is always found.

What you are seeing is a leakage voltage, and you meter is discharging this to ground.

Mike

Tim Ballinger24/03/2020 13:27:02
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Mike,
Thanks, I always like to know how things work.

Tim

Andy Joyce24/03/2020 17:38:46
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Well after many attempts of doing the Tx update and even using the new version as released today I cant get the Tx to bind to a RX8R pro running also the latest version of its upgraded software.

So has anybody managed to get the FRSky software upgrade to work with a RX8R Pro?

In desperation had to revert the Tx to 1.3.04Beta and the Rx to LBT180601.

Tim Ballinger24/03/2020 18:11:09
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Andy,

As I mentioned earlier I was not undertaking this upgrade (16 jan) until it had been debugged and a new version issued. That said I have not seen any reports of Suitably updated Rx’s not binding.
I did not know about today’s releases of Tx and Rx firmware until I read your post. I see it is there now but will still wait for good reports before doing it so Not sure I can help you.

What I would do in your position is upgrade the Tx firmware to 1.306 as issued in December and make sure that works. That functionality I can vouch for as I have been running it since it came out.

Tim

Andy Joyce24/03/2020 18:37:46
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Well did try 1.3.06 and could not get it to bind to the upgraded RX8R Pro, so was reluctant to try another Rx as it was a right pain to even find the old Rx software on the FRSky site to revert to a working version.

The moral to apply here with these upgrades is to save the original files before change. If I had not done this I would not have been able to revert the Tx to 1.3.04 Beta as the version I down loaded from the FRSky site did not work at all.

Interested to see if anyone posts that they have 1.3.06 working.

By the way Tim upgrading Rx's is easy, but the method described on that FRSKY crib 'how to' is wrong. Rx upgrades are done by selecting Files from the system page and then selecting the appropriate file on the SD firmware folder and then selecting update.

Tim Ballinger25/03/2020 08:54:53
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Andy,

The December issue of 1.3.06 is fine. It did not include the iXJT upgrade and did not need the Rx upgrade.

I assume the iXJT upgrade from the jan release would be removed if you re flashed with an older firmware but this is new ground for me so I can not be certain. Certainly the December release would not work with the upgraded Rx.

The Rx upgrade process change is I guess not unexpected as the System Files capability was only added in the December release.

Absolutely right about keeping backups of old versions, I have all my Working Rx firmware files archived.

Sure more help will come as folks assess the virtue of the latest release.

Tim

Tim Ballinger25/03/2020 12:10:05
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Mike,

I see this from the github testing

Sounds like there are still problems despite the full release. Any advice?

  1. Receiver XM/XMP
  • RSSI output wild fluctuation
  • SBUS output FS bit is not set correctly
  1. Receiver G-RX8/G-RX6
  • Telemetry data peak issue
  1. Receiver S6R/S8R
  • S8R quick mode startup slowly
  • S8R works with RB20 without telemetry back
  • S8R Aileron Inversion Problem in V-Tail-mode
Andy Joyce25/03/2020 12:21:53
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Tim, may have hit on the issue as I did not update the iXJT file (or at least I dont think I did) unless it came as part of 1.3.06 or indeed 1.3.07.

Will start the process again and upload 1.3.07 along with 2.1.0 iXJT

Tim Ballinger25/03/2020 12:28:26
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Andy ,

The iXJT is in the main bin file for FrOS updates that is why it is not in the latest FrOS download as an explicit item. Plus had it not been included your original Rx would still have worked.

At least that’s how I read it. OpenTX loads it separately I believe.

Tim

Andy Joyce25/03/2020 12:35:08
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Well confused Tim as when I first upload 1.3.06 it did not allow my old RX8R Pro Rx with its original SW to bind at all.

Nor do I see the iXJT file in any folders of 1.3.06.

Andy Joyce25/03/2020 15:36:34
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Tim, do you have to select specific LBT software for the Tx when upgrading?

Edited By Andy Joyce on 25/03/2020 15:47:00

Tim Ballinger25/03/2020 16:16:49
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Andy,

You select the bin file according to name that matches your setup . Yesterday’s release has 3 options EU, NEU and Flex. EU means LBT so that is the one you should pick. Some upgrades also select by mode but I am not sure why.

Always bearing in mind I have only ever undertaken 3 firmware upgrades so they might do something different each time. Release notes are to say the least ‘ very brief’.

Tim

Edited By Tim Ballinger on 25/03/2020 16:17:21

Andy Joyce25/03/2020 16:53:08
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Well got to the bottom of the issue I had which was mixing up non EU and LBT versions of the Tx software (or at least that was what I think I did incorrectly.) Anyway now have 1.3.07 running on the Tx and working with one of my Rx's so now need to do the others.

Tim Ballinger25/03/2020 17:00:26
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Congratulations you’ve become the first tester and now the expert !😉

Andy Joyce25/03/2020 18:28:13
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Well my success was short lived Tim as an updated G-RX8 Rx failed to function after the download. Will try again tomorrow.

Mike Blandford25/03/2020 22:42:24
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Posted by Tim Ballinger on 25/03/2020 12:10:05:

Mike,

I see this from the github testing

Sounds like there are still problems despite the full release. Any advice?

Not a lot! I've been testing with and X9D and a X9D+ with a X8R. Those all seem to be working fine.

I don't have any XM/XMP receivers so I can't test those.

I do have a G-RX8 and a G-RX6 but those are on ACCESS for testing that at present.

I'll see if I can test a S8R tomorrow.

Mike

Allan Bennett26/03/2020 11:18:37
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Posted by Mike Blandford on 25/03/2020 22:42:24:
Posted by Tim Ballinger on 25/03/2020 12:10:05:

Mike,

I see this from the github testing

Sounds like there are still problems despite the full release. Any advice?

Not a lot! I've been testing with and X9D and a X9D+ with a X8R. Those all seem to be working fine.

. . . .

Thank you Mike and the others who have been involved in the debugging and testing of this firmware.

As just a simple user, without an in-depth knowledge of electronics, when will I be able to have confidence that the new firmware will be more reliable than the old? After all, my X9D with v1 firmware has 'seemed to be working fine' for the past two years or so that I've owned it. Reading this and other threads on the subject, it seemed like we're getting there, but under the intense scrutiny of many experts it now seems that other problems are arising other than the original uncommanded servo movement.

Tim Ballinger26/03/2020 12:16:46
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Allan,

Just my view you understand.

if you check the Rx’s noted above that still have bug reports and you do not use them then I think it is probably time to implement the latest firmware release for Tx and Rx’s. Personally I use a Grx6 which is in the list but the odd spike in telemetry value does not worry me and has probably always been there. The miniature Rx (XM series) looks more concerning , to my eyes these mainly input into flight controllers via Sbus . I do not use those. If you use stabilised Rx,s then there looks to be some issues to sort out.

Tx dependant issues were the big one at the first release, I am seeing less ( perhaps none) of those reports now but as I am a Horus user on FrOS I tend to concentrate on anything in my camp .

I am in still in no rush to update but I will do it in the next few weeks if nothing drastic is flagged up.

None of that may help you but that’s where I am atm.

Tim

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