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Christopher Morris 221/01/2020 09:18:26
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Hi, was having trouble finding the meanings of the BMFA's SWEET & SMART Acronyms. Couldn't seem to find it on the BMFA site. Thanks

Don Fry21/01/2020 09:24:41
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Sweet I haven't seen before. Smart is be smart using your transmitter, check switches, meters, aerial, rates, trims.

jrman21/01/2020 09:30:46
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Listed clearly in the BMFA online handbook index .

Detailed on pages 42 and 44.

Don Fry21/01/2020 09:52:46
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Out of curiosity, what does SWEET signify?

Dickw21/01/2020 10:00:32
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From the BMFA Handbook:-

"Think S.W.E.E.T.S.

S - Sun

W - Wind

E - Eventualities

E - Emergencies (Inc. Failsafes)

T - Transmitter Control

S - Site Rules"

Dick

Christopher Morris 221/01/2020 10:34:22
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Ah! Thanks everyone. I was searching the BMFA site & it wasn't to be found. This was because it was in the hand book which was a download. But as mentioned/suggested, pages 42 & 44 was the answerer. Many thanks. It just came up on a BMFA quiz & i thought it was strange not being on the site.

Think S.W.E.E.T.S.

S - Sun

W - Wind

E - Eventualities

E - Emergencies (Inc. Fail safes)

T - Transmitter Control

S - Site Rules


Be S.M.A.R.T. with your transmitter.

S .... Switch on

M .... Model selected is correct / Meter in the Green

A .... Aerial secure / extended

R .... Rate switches all in correct positions

T ..... Transmitter voltage good and Trims all in correct positions

Christopher Morris 221/01/2020 10:34:23
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Sorry, got posted twice.blush

Edited By Christopher Morris 2 on 21/01/2020 10:35:33

Peter Jenkins22/01/2020 00:51:17
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Chris Morris 2 - do you have an A Certificate?

Christopher Morris 222/01/2020 06:26:11
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Posted by Peter Jenkins on 22/01/2020 00:51:17:

Chris Morris 2 - do you have an A Certificate?

Hi Peter, i have the new BMFA membership & passed the online test for operators ID.plus joined a local club. I now need to get my A or B certificate. The club says that they tend to aim for a B. Its all good, but didn't realise the time it might take. My local club don't seem to start training until May & may need half a dozen lessons before taking a test.. So at worsted i thought i might take it some ware else , but reading the BMFA rules, my club do not have to except my certificate." Got to check on this" There is more to this than when i took my car/motorbike or PSV test. Admittedly, these was all a few years back.

MattyB22/01/2020 09:41:06
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Posted by Christopher Morris 2 on 22/01/2020 06:26:11:
Posted by Peter Jenkins on 22/01/2020 00:51:17:

Chris Morris 2 - do you have an A Certificate?

Hi Peter, i have the new BMFA membership & passed the online test for operators ID.plus joined a local club. I now need to get my A or B certificate. The club says that they tend to aim for a B. Its all good, but didn't realise the time it might take. My local club don't seem to start training until May & may need half a dozen lessons before taking a test.. So at worsted i thought i might take it some ware else , but reading the BMFA rules, my club do not have to except my certificate." Got to check on this" There is more to this than when i took my car/motorbike or PSV test. Admittedly, these was all a few years back.

It's in the club rules that they "tend to aim for a B"?!! Either they require it or they don't - there is no grey area. Personally though I think expecting a B cert just to be a member and fly solo is ridiculous. I would read their club rules, decide whether you want to be part of the club based on those, and if you do tell them you intend to meet their minimum standards as set out in their handbook.

Also if you have an A Cert on the BMFA's system then that is a valid achievementand should never expire. Whilst the club don't have to accept it as proof you meet their (self set) competency standards, you certainly shouldn't have to do the whole thing again - it is fair enough that someone observes a check flight to verify you can operate safely, but starting again from scratch is excessive. If they insist I would start looking for an alternative club to fly at.

Edited By MattyB on 22/01/2020 10:10:00

kc22/01/2020 10:30:38
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I would suspect that club means they expect members to try to achieve their B cert eventually, or they could mean they might choose to accept membership only from a B cert holder if membership is nearing their maximum numbers. Reasonable enough to want to have more experienced members to act as instructors and keep flying standards high.

Frankly there is no substitute for going to the club and chatting with members to find out what the real situation is. Rules like that are often there to be used only when the situation changes. Also if anyone has been to a club AGM they will know that the wording of rules gets changed and compromises made to satisfy members and get a consensus which often results in poor wording.

Peter Jenkins22/01/2020 12:18:48
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Chris Morris 2 - I agree with the comments concerning the B test. When I last checked, only 18% of BMFA members held a B so the Club's aim is somewhat wide of the mark!

The best area for you to get information is from the BMFA Achievement Scheme site. You can access it by navigating to it from the main BMFA site (rest your cursor on Info and then click on the second item down "Radio Control Achievement Scheme". Alternatively just click here.

Once on the Achievement Scheme page, go to the Downloads tab and download The Achievement Scheme Handbook (or click here) and A Flying Start (or click here). Reading those will give you much better information than the average Club Instructor will give you as, in my experience, many have not read these documents. As a beginner, the Flying Start document gives you the basic information about terminology and covers learning how to fly including doing the A Test.

You will also find the details on the A test (and B for that matter) by going to the Downloads/Standards and Guideline Booklets and then downloading the Fixed Wing Power Certificates document. Or, you can click here.

Reading those documents will give you a very much better appreciation of what is involved in doing an A test.

The Videos tab gives you access to videos covering getting started and flying the A test. You can also access quizzes off the Quizzes tab to allow you to practice answering the relevant questions.

I hope that helps you to progress without being led down the garden path by people who think they know what is involved but have never accessed these documents. Good luck.

Martin Harris22/01/2020 13:00:43
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Posted by MattyB on 22/01/2020 09:41:06:

It's in the club rules that they "tend to aim for a B"?!! Either they require it or they don't - there is no grey area. Personally though I think expecting a B cert just to be a member and fly solo is ridiculous. I would read their club rules, decide whether you want to be part of the club based on those, and if you do tell them you intend to meet their minimum standards as set out in their handbook.

I don't think Christopher said this was written in their rules - my interpretation would be that the club encourages their members to aim for the B certificate and hopefully provides encouragement, help and guidance to do so?

I see no reason why they should object to you getting your A elsewhere if they can't give you training until half way through the year although I could understand if a club was wary of someone struggling with their training should they suddenly appear with a shiny new A certificate - although a check flight and observation should soon confirm whether a quantum leap had been made!

Christopher Morris 222/01/2020 14:51:04
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As i am new to all this, may be i have miss heard. I have sent an email to the club as i paid & have not received a membership card or rule book as yet, but the check was cashed in December, so maybe i am not used to things running so slow & me being a bit inpatient. I'm the sort of person that pays his tax on 6 April each year. lol But true.

Peter Jenkins22/01/2020 15:00:46
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Chris, you may not be aware that the BMFA is no longer posting out membership cards. Once you have delivered your cheque to the Club, you are immediately covered by the BMFA's insurance. However, all Clubs are run by volunteers and some are quicker off the mark than others. Once your Club has entered your details into the BMFA membership system, you should be able to log in, download and print your BMFA Insurance and Membership details. Not all Clubs issue membership cards but those that do will usually hand them out either at Club meetings or at the patch as otherwise there is a significant postage cost.

In the mean time, follow the links I've given you in the post above and you can crack on with getting your mind around this fascinating hobby/sport. You may not realise this but this is classed as a Sport and not just a hobby!

MattyB22/01/2020 16:05:51
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Posted by Christopher Morris 2 on 22/01/2020 14:51:04:

As i am new to all this, may be i have miss heard. I have sent an email to the club as i paid & have not received a membership card or rule book as yet, but the check was cashed in December, so maybe i am not used to things running so slow & me being a bit impatient.

Seems pretty off that they cashed your cheque in Dec but haven't even been bothered to send an email confirming your membership. I would certainly chase to check the status and ask about the club rules on certifications for solo flying - do they not have a website with any of this info on?

Christopher Morris 222/01/2020 16:05:55
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Thanks for the links Peter. I will have a study. I joined the BMFA directly & the same with the club. I like to do things myself as i am the unlucky one when a third party is involved & it goes wrong.

Steve J22/01/2020 17:00:42
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Posted by MattyB on 22/01/2020 16:05:51

Seems pretty off that they cashed your cheque in Dec but haven't even been bothered to send an email confirming your membership. I would certainly chase to check the status and ask about the club rules on certifications for solo flying - do they not have a website with any of this info on?

I renewed three clubs in December. I haven't seen a card yet. I'm putting it down to some clubs being clueless about the CAA business.

Re certs, some clubs are funny. I know one that wants people to have the appropriate 'A' for whatever they are flying which I think is OTT.

Peter Jenkins22/01/2020 17:21:53
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Steve J - you just need the BMFA card for the CAA rules to be satisfied and that you can print off yourself.

Steve J22/01/2020 17:57:34
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Posted by Peter Jenkins on 22/01/2020 17:21:53:

Steve J - you just need the BMFA card for the CAA rules to be satisfied and that you can print off yourself.

I have OP and FLY IDs. I have a membership secretary asking why the BMFA don't have my DOB.

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