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cymaz21/02/2020 22:49:38
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I understand, but my wife never registered as the owner of the planes . I did, as it states on the portal !

p.s. emails sent to relevant governing bodies

Edited By cymaz on 21/02/2020 22:59:01

John Privett22/02/2020 09:50:55
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Posted by i12fly on 21/02/2020 22:36:27:

My OP came through at 19.33 hrs, must be on overtime.....

Like Peter Jenkins above, it has got the "making use of a CAA general exemption" clause, so it looks like they caught up this afternoon.

The last of my "no-email" members has just received their notification via the club email account. Dated Saturday 22 Feb at 08:46. Are we sure Doris and her mates aren't behind this? And working w/end overtime?

And his does mention the CAA general exception. As did another one that came via the club yeseterday at 6pm. But not the third one (arrived Monday) or mine (yesterday morning.) Ho hum...

Andy Symons - BMFA22/02/2020 11:29:27
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Posted by Kevin 216 on 22/02/2020 11:04:43:
Posted by Dickw on 22/02/2020 10:52:12:
Posted by Doug Campbell on 22/02/2020 10:00:59:

Mine has still not arrived. That is two deadlines missed. I know I dont need it and not worried about it, I must admit to some annoyance over the matter. I have been mislead by the BMFA and CAA who also have not been totally honest with me.

I don't think anyone is trying to mislead you. Latest update here.

Dick

Apparently we should have our number by Monday - I think I just saw a pink pig fly past my living room window!

I think there is every chance you will have it, we are getting lots of the emails for those members who don't have an email address through in to the office (we have a system where we receive their email) the DMARES team are working on it over the weekend and the rate they are coming through I suspect they will be done unless they have a technical issue of some sort.

John Tee22/02/2020 12:28:48
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As one of the committee that can update info for members on the portal, I can't find anywhere to record members OP numbers. We have recorded these on our mebership database at the moment for internal reference. As most of our members registered through the BMFA I thought there might be someway to do this.

John

Dickw22/02/2020 12:38:03
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Posted by John Tee on 22/02/2020 12:28:48:

As one of the committee that can update info for members on the portal, I can't find anywhere to record members OP numbers. We have recorded these on our mebership database at the moment for internal reference. As most of our members registered through the BMFA I thought there might be someway to do this.

John

From the BMFA news update dated 19th Feb

"Once we receive the uploaded data back from the CAA, our plan is to update members records in GoMembership to include their CAA Operator number which will also be incorporated onto the electronic membership document. "

Full text of update here.

Dick

John Tee22/02/2020 12:47:28
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thanks Dick

john stones 122/02/2020 15:31:42
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Police pulled a multi rotor flyer this morning on Englands green n pleasant land, hope he had his bumf sorted.

Ken Tarran22/02/2020 15:33:59
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Any recommendations regarding what you use to print on or write on to display the CAA Operator ID and how you stick the label to your models to avoid them coming off?

ken anderson.22/02/2020 15:54:09
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hello ken, I'll be printing mine on my pc/printer. Then mounting inside the model/s with a bit of good quality clear tape, bearing in mind that they are supposedly going to be re-issued/changed every 12 months ..

ken anderson...ne...1..numbers dept.

John Bisset22/02/2020 16:49:05
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For all but my few fancier models, I shall just write the number on - 'permanent marker' comes off with simple solvents. For the fancy ones I shall put the number on a sticky label, one inside and one outside (under the tail) That way I am covered if the outer one falls off.

The intent is to make ident of legitimate operation easy, not to be picky about little details - police are not going to nit pick unless a modeller is being unduly difficult with them. If you do want to play hardball, make sure you have every base covered first - and remember, there is always another law the police can find if you really push them!

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Edited By John Bisset on 22/02/2020 16:49:45

Piers Bowlan22/02/2020 17:29:30
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Posted by ken anderson. on 22/02/2020 15:54:09:

hello ken, I'll be printing mine on my pc/printer. Then mounting inside the model/s with a bit of good quality clear tape, bearing in mind that they are supposedly going to be re-issued/changed every 12 months.

Can someone please explain to me why our OP number should change every 12 months? I still have the same CAA professional pilots licence number I was issued with 44 years ago and my driving licence number, even longer.

Edited By Piers Bowlan on 22/02/2020 17:30:30

Martin Harris22/02/2020 17:35:14
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European harmonisation will probably introduce a new standard format in July, hence the CAA warning...I'm not sure where the idea of a yearly change has come from.

Edited By Martin Harris on 22/02/2020 17:47:55

Andy Symons - BMFA22/02/2020 17:44:39
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Posted by Piers Bowlan on 22/02/2020 17:29:30:
Posted by ken anderson. on 22/02/2020 15:54:09:

hello ken, I'll be printing mine on my pc/printer. Then mounting inside the model/s with a bit of good quality clear tape, bearing in mind that they are supposedly going to be re-issued/changed every 12 months.

Can someone please explain to me why our OP number should change every 12 months? I still have the same CAA professional pilots licence number I was issued with 44 years ago and my driving licence number, even longer.

Edited By Piers Bowlan on 22/02/2020 17:30:30

Will most likely change at first renewal but stay the same after that.

kc22/02/2020 18:11:40
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Wouldn't it have saved so much time and our money if the CAA had said just put your BMFA number on as ID. Then in the rare event they find a drone that strayed they could just have phoned up the BMFA and ask who the owner was! Probably a couple of phone calls a year!

trebor22/02/2020 18:48:16
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That would be too easy instead of that we might have to change the numbers every year no what a load of tosh.

You should use a removable label as your operator ID may change when you renew. You’ll need to remove your label if you’re no longer responsible for the drone or model aircraft.

Peter Miller22/02/2020 18:49:43
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I bought 5 sheets of transparent inkjet self adhesive vinyl.

Printed all my numbers out in different colours plus a friends on about half a sheet. Stuck all mine down in 10minutes.

leccyflyer23/02/2020 08:10:51
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So it's the 23rd February and still no Operator ID #. Personally I thought that it was important to support the BMFA in following their advice and registering through BMFA rather than directly with the CAA, as my opinion was that would strengthen BMFA's position in representing model flyers. It's bad enough that registration is necessary in the first place without it being implemented in such a shoddy manner.

If the mechanics of the supposed batch processing of the BMFA members' registrations were known beforehand it begs the question why the processing of these didn't start in January when they were undoubtedly available, as they had all been processed on the BMFA portal?

Now the goalposts have completely shifted with the exemption in place for all BMFA members until 30th June and the entire interim registration mess is shown up for what it is - a collossal waste of time and effort.

Peter Miller23/02/2020 08:28:19
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AS one of the first 4000 my "certificate" says I must have a Flyer ID (YES I KNOW WE DON'T)

However it occurs to me that PC Plod will look at the certificate and ask where the flyer ID is.

I am pretty sure, no, totally convinced that verbal explanatons will be ignored.

Therefore I will be printing out the recent article from the BMFA explaining the incompetance of the CAA and stating that we don't need a Flyer ID.

Before long we will need a file an inch thick in our flight boxes just to prove that we are legal.

And "They" control the aircraft flying over your house!!

trebor23/02/2020 08:45:25
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I want my £9 back if we are exempt for half the year or at least £4.50 face 5

Brian Hammond23/02/2020 08:57:44
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How about a mass demonstration to demand our £9 back and threaten to go on strike ,that would make the powers that be sit up and take notice 😈😈

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