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Area code legality

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Jimmy Jewitt16/03/2020 21:27:14
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Hi a newby pensioner here. smiley

I recently purchased a used Futaba T14SG controller.

I have noticed that the area code is America. Is it illegal to use it in the UK and is there any way this can be changed. Any information or help on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Jimmy.

Jesus Cardin17/03/2020 09:56:13
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Jimmy, the area code adapts details when you software update your T14SG transmitter.

So, being America code even if it is updated to last software version your controller is not working on "Listen Before Talk" (LBT) protocol as is mandatory today both in Europe and UK.

For changing the area code from "America" to "Europe" you will mandatory have to reel on an official Futaba service as it is performed from a special service software, so I think you should contact Ripmax and ask if the may give you such service.

kc17/03/2020 12:18:08
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I am tempted to say that Jimmy has been " sold a pup" and it would be better to try to get the money back from whoever sold it to him. But perhaps this Tx was imported into EU before the laws changed and could be therefore legal to use? I suppose it also depends whether Jimmy bought it from an EU source or imported it from USA himself.

Peter Jenkins17/03/2020 18:37:24
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There may be a difference in radiated power for a US versus a European Tx. I think in the UK we are limited to 100 mlli watts whereas in the US they can go up to 1 watt. Another issue. I think this falls into the Grey Import area where the Tx will not carry a CE marking and is therefore illegal to use in the UK. Agree with kc that pup and sold come into this.

Jimmy Jewitt17/03/2020 18:43:49
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I thought I bought it on Ebay But I can't seem to find it in my purchases. I have had it about a year now and decided to use it for gimbal use. (as I already owned aT14SG which I use for flight).

That's the reason I have only found out lately about it being coded for America. I also own FrSky Taranis but this can be changed to be America code or Euro (LBT) code by changing the firmware. I wonder why Futaba didn't do the same.

Thanks guys for the input.

Frank Skilbeck18/03/2020 08:19:42
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Posted by Jimmy Jewitt on 17/03/2020 18:43:49:

That's the reason I have only found out lately about it being coded for America. I also own FrSky Taranis but this can be changed to be America code or Euro (LBT) code by changing the firmware. I wonder why Futaba didn't do the same.

Under the EU regs you should not be able to change region on the transmitting device..................

Jimmy Jewitt18/03/2020 12:12:41
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Sorry for being a dum dum but does anybody know EU regs forbid this ? I don't get it at all.

Gary Murphy 118/03/2020 13:46:07
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Silly question BUT if Jimmy turned up at the flying field/park/club who would know? I suppose a club might check everyones radio BUT a park etc? These new radios that you can change the firmwhere with multi protocol, whats to stop you selecting the "higher" output after the TX as passed any checks?

Bob Cotsford18/03/2020 13:49:35
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It might be worth contacting Ripmax as authorised service agents should be able to switch it from FCC to EU/LBT.  As I understand it that is the way it should be done for FrSky so I'd imagine it will be the same for other brands.

Edited By Bob Cotsford on 18/03/2020 13:51:48

Tim Flyer19/03/2020 12:19:54
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Futaba probably want their products to be sold by legitimate retailers and are keen to avoid people buying fake or unsuitable/unauthorised /non-compliant grey market equipment. I imagine Futaba are not keen on people changing their firmware for the same reasons, and are keen on maintaining the reputation of their product. I’m afraid amazingly “cheap” offers are usually cheap for a reason . There used to be a number of fake servos and receivers around too which falsely implied that they were Futaba or Spectrum. That caught many unsuspecting Modellers out.

Jimmy Jewitt19/03/2020 13:26:13
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To be honest Futaba is not my favourite controller it is a first class quality product that specialises in helicopters and fixed winged aeroplanes. There is very little about multicopters which have become very popular.

The reason I purchased Futaba (and Spectrum) was of DJI's preference for using products other than there own.

I prefer FR Sky's Taranis that uses Opentx which is easier to program because of the in detail instructions as how it is done. I still feel that it would do Futaba no harm to supply there own firmware software (at their own discretion) to make this possible.

I repeat Futaba is really a brilliant controller (for heli and fixed wing) but there is no tutorials on multicopters whether in print or online (Youtube).

Sorry for changing the subject and the ramblings but it comes with age I guess.

Thank's to everyone who made the time to answer my post's, very much appreciated.

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