Post here if you are still trading.
|Michael Barclay||02/04/2020 09:31:35|
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That must only apply to the lipos as a motor I ordered from Hobby King 5 days ago arrived 9am this morning. Mike,
Edited By Michael Barclay on 02/04/2020 09:33:49
|Ron Gray||02/04/2020 09:45:28|
|1920 forum posts|
I'm afraid not, I spoke to HK support yesterday and they said (and in writing too!) that the EU warehouse are only posting to local addresses only, not to the UK and that applies to everything! I tested this by ordering a non battery item and sure enough it wouldn't allow it through due to no postage options for the UK. This is the message you get:
Edited By Ron Gray on 02/04/2020 09:51:02
|Michael Barclay||02/04/2020 10:38:16|
126 forum posts
Looks as though I got the motor just in time then Ron.... Mike
|Mike Blandford||02/04/2020 10:56:52|
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I ordered from T9HobbySport yesterday, the Royal Mail tracking says it will be delivered today.
When it arrives, it will be picked up while wearing gloves and placed in a quarantine area in the spare room, along with the gloves, and not touched for 72 hours. Maybe that is being paranoid, but why take chances?
The 72 hours applies to everything we get, including food shopping, we have a quarantine shelf in both the fridge and the freezer, and several pairs of gloves each.
|Ron Gray||02/04/2020 11:10:07|
|1920 forum posts|
You were indeed luck Mike and as the law of sod kicks in, HK reduced their price of some of their smaller LiPos which made them very attractive as I'm doing quite a bit of drone flying in the garden at the moment. Not sure if I should still place an order for them from the UK and fingers crossed I get them when they come back (when???). On the other hand when they come back I will be back into 'proper' flying so the drone will probably be gathering dust.
|Steven Webb (Steve Webb Models)||02/04/2020 11:16:01|
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Hi Mike we order things from T9 and he still mail ordering like you say.
I think most model shops are trying to at the moment but I do think that with the suppliers closing and supply is not coming from overseas stock will become a problem and shops will probably close.
I just wanted to say that your quarantine idea is pretty much what we do at home as well things left on the path and then left for 24 hours maybe more lots of hand sanitiser washing your hands you cannot be too careful keep safe and good luck Steve
|Steven Webb (Steve Webb Models)||02/04/2020 11:57:38|
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Making tax digital what can I say it’s increase the workload is increase the overheads it’s increase the bills from the accountant it’s been a total disaster.I could do with employing somebody just to deal with Mate tax digital.
I don’t see what’s been gained because that the records that are submitted digital are not automatic from the businesses so still the same as it was before but just extra work. It’s so badly for and doesn’t take account of exports and allsorts of other things thatWe have ended up keeping manual records as well it’s just doubled all the work.Know when it’s a vat quarter the accountant is on the phone more than ever.we always used to have a couple of phone calls but now they have to phone to check everything.
I do sympathise Peter and I do think I know what you’re going through we shut to the public calling before the government guidelines we had some rather bad instances with people coughing and spluttering in the shop putting all the staff at risk another customer is at risk and not really caring about it. I let the staff decide what they wanted to do and they decided to close to callers a few days later the government restrictions came in so we would’ve had to close to calls anyway. No we are doing mail-order but it is difficult everything is affected carriers supplies but we are trying. Some short time and a couple of staff laid off.
Edited By Steven Webb (Steve Webb Models) on 02/04/2020 12:54:27
|Steven Webb (Steve Webb Models)||02/04/2020 12:05:00|
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Cont for pete Airtek
I also feel like you do quite a few retail stores in all lines of business Are not going to reopen.with most of all trade suppliers in the UK will be closing and supply of some overseas companies are not supplying - eventually even the mail-order shops will close. My accountant was suggesting the situation will go on for at least six months and he feels eventually in the next few weeks all non-essential businesses will close like in Italy.i’ve been mail ordering some bits and pieces for myself for all over the place because I honestly don’t think it will be available in a ifew months.
Of course while we all feel it’s about business and closing and the emotions of that situation when it’s your own store and business and you’ve put so much effort into it.I overworked that much in the 90s it’s affected my health.i’m on the most vulnerable list so I can’t even help the guys at the shop which is getting to me a bit.
The re ports this morning are we still receiving orders still filling quite a few orders and so on the day today should reach quite a few people. I think it’s going to be a day-to-day decision what’s going on.Stay safe Peter it’s good to hear from you what a dreadful time we’re all in but we’re all in it together.
I’m truly Sorry to hear of your health problems . I have been suffering some poor health and of course the store is still then ill or not. You must keep away from the Virus. I got my venerability letter of the NHS today. It made depressing reading , but then on BBC breakfast it said some on line food stores give preferential slots to those with a letter. So not totally depressing !
If you are a business that has a small rate rebate or rates rebated completely under the previous government scheme there is a £10,000 grant that you could be eligible for I am hoping that we will be eligible as quite a few businesses are another shop phoned us to tell us that they were and they were getting 10K grant rebate. Search the government website for what special help is available .
keep Safe and well and sounds like you made the right decision.
good to have contact after all these years
Edited By Steven Webb (Steve Webb Models) on 02/04/2020 12:05:57
Edited By Steven Webb (Steve Webb Models) on 02/04/2020 12:10:15
|Barrie Lever||02/04/2020 12:25:00|
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I really hope that the UK model shops can survive this terrible period in our history.
I deal with both Steve Webb and The Model Shop (Leeds) and both are really good business's.
However I will say something controversial now, I will not shed one single tear if HK hits the ropes and ceases trading, they truly put the properly run business's under undue and uncompetitive pressures by their well published avoidance measures (discussed to death on this forum amongst others).
I was modelling way before HK was thought of and I have never bought a single item from them, I will still be modelling if HK disappeared back into the pit that it crawled out of.
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Thanks Steve, not much I can add to that your experience reflects mine and I suspect many others in the trade. I was just thinking that as I child I remember my dad starting his model business in the shed at the top of the garden which grew to be one that employed over 50 and had a manufacturing base in the USA before the internet came and changed things that I'm not going to let a virus be the end of it all!
We all need to take things day by day, do what's best for our individual circumstances and survive for better times, and of course I include everyone in that.
The grant application is already in and is going to be needed, certainly wouldn't cover standing costs for 6 months but we'll have to wait and see.
I know what you mean about the NHS letter, makes you think, and I don't want to catch this dam thing. My wife is a registrar and has just been put on to dealing with deaths only, and my son who is back home with us is a voluntary paramedic for St. Johns and is going on the front line this weekend. Proud of him but hope he doesn't bring anything home!
|Steven Webb (Steve Webb Models)||02/04/2020 14:02:49|
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Thanks for the kind words . I know Martin at Leeds , I don’t speak to him as often as I used to when we were trading Enya . I have great respect for Martin , he’s a total professional and if I could bet on who makes it through all this , I think that Martin and the lads at Model Shop Leeds will make it!
Regard your comments re Chinese Direct retailing - Id have no problem with it - if UK laws are adhered to, UK taxes paid , retail standards etc
Unfortunately although the UK seems to be applying the laws to such retailers now a days that wasn’t always the case and it gave the ROC direct sellers an incredible advantage as if a business abides by UK retail laws and the costs they inflict , plus import duties and VAT they cannot compete / couldn’t compete with such suppliers.
It was a very unfair playing field and I think it has damaged the UK model trade and the European trade. We lost Graupner recently , it was the second time they’d ceased trading . The company behind the radio sets HOTTs gave then a life line, but now they’ve pulled out of Graupner . The radio will continue . But it’s a loss of a retailer that supported youngsters , supported the Hobby.
The model trade is very price orientated and it breeds buyers that chase constant bargains, the hobby becomes more about how cheap they can make it than the hobby. Direct ROC sellers exploit this. The very people that support them will become the victims as more UK stores close , less stores means less beginners , less beginners means members in clubs and eventually less places and resources for everyone.
To be honest the story is repeated in lots of retail - Fishing, Camera Stores etc etc
Chinese Sellers on eBay with counterfeit servos and RC seem to be tolerated because it’s cheap. If a UK model store sold counterfeit servos - imagine the outcry . They would be quoting safety , trading standards at them and throw the book at them.
Again it would not be accepted if it was a UK model store doing it.
i don’t think it’s controversial what you’ve said , it’s a free country and while certain shops / business have supporters - they also have those that don’t support them . Freedom of speech is a good thing!
Thanks for your support
Edited By Steven Webb (Steve Webb Models) on 02/04/2020 14:03:52
|Steven Webb (Steve Webb Models)||02/04/2020 14:19:16|
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Very similar experiences Peter , my family has been in retail since the 60s . I went in a different direction as we were
in the building trade. Retail is a hard life , but can be rewarding , challenging. Yes we have to address our own individual circumstances , but we can still help each other. It was another store that tipped me of about the grant.
Taje care Peter I hope you make it . Like you say after so many years trading you can’t let this beat you. I feel the same
|Steven Webb (Steve Webb Models)||02/04/2020 17:26:58|
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After some very serious trader chat - 😐 Sorry big posts . I think we should get back to who’s trading , what experiences people are having ? Are deliveries getting through? SWM reports mail order at increased rate of items , but a lower cost of goods in parcels . People seem to be shopping on line for more bits . I want to state this is not an advert for SWM , but we lowered our Carriage Paid To as low a figure we could break even at , with a view it would help customers stuck for bits. I would say to other traders it’s worth considering a drop in the minimum amount you provide free postage . It helps out the clientele and they will remember it. I can’t see me saying that before the crisis!
if you call your local store and the phone doesn’t answer try again . Some business’s are on skeleton crew.
probably easier to order on line in most cases but even with that there are reports of packets and parcels being delayed . There’s the collections of mail order some companies are collecting every two days and not every day , some are turning up any time in the day. So where you order 24 hour with Parcel Force collecting . They may arrive at a store at 10 am when only a few parcels are packed so instantly there’s a day delay . I think we all need to realise these are strange times and we should be laid back about times taken delivering . Yes some stuffs getting there in 2 to 2 days but not all.
keep posting ! Thanks to all that have , including the traders . It’s given insight into the real problems every one is facing . Steering clear of the virus while trying to keep some normality .
|Barrie Lever||02/04/2020 18:23:13|
175 forum posts
I have enjoyed your insight into the model trade and the problems bought on by the 'Wu Flu', I expect others have thought the same.
Anyway onto traders who are still open.
I only use Bob Smith Cyano, and I ordered 3 bottles yesterday from the BSI UK sales site and that arrived this morning, so another good trader keeping going.
|Mike T||02/04/2020 19:22:18|
|489 forum posts|
Just had a delivery from RC World. I was prepared for a delay, but - ordered Mon pm, delivered this am.
Also,an ebay order placed on Monday pm arrived yesterday - as fast as I would expect under normal circumstances.
Maybe the PO, etc has less junk mail to process and is able to deliver 'proper' mail easier?
Edited By Mike T on 02/04/2020 19:22:45
|paul d||02/04/2020 19:58:40|
|164 forum posts|
If I could just chip in (again) now is the time to support our model trade, places like Webbo's, Leeds, Addlestone models etc are vital to our hobby imho.
I've used all three of the above and have never received anything but first class service....
|Bruce Collinson||02/04/2020 20:03:08|
|515 forum posts|
Use them or lose them.
Havent seen John McNamara at Jettstream mentioned. Long helpful chat with him this morning.
|Steven Webb (Steve Webb Models)||02/04/2020 20:54:08|
291 forum posts
Hi Barrie, Sorry a bit of a ramble. I am so involved in the model trade that when I’m taken out of it and imprisoned at home I’m going stir crazy!
On a more positive note I heard that Logic were going to try and man their warehouse with 2 persons. It could mean some goods getting through to stores open.
I also heard another major wholesaler distributor was trying to get the show back on the road . I can’t say who until I have it confirmed .
Report from my store is Mail Order is holding up. As I mentioned before packages with much lower average value . I guess people are sending for what they usually shop for.
Bob Smith glues - I use them myself . I’m on the super gold. It’s great. I still use pink zap I’m lucky because I can order at my store an Robin leaves the order on my drive on his way home. The wife then picks up with gloves and the items have a 72 hour quarantine . So I have same day delivery . I suppose being the SW in SWM has advantages / but I still end up waiting 3 days! For the quarantine.
SWM is still very much taking eBay , store orders and web orders .
Edited By Steven Webb (Steve Webb Models) on 02/04/2020 20:55:28
|Martin McIntosh||02/04/2020 21:02:22|
3329 forum posts
Tried to order some small lipos from HK yesterday. Not shipping to here from EU at the moment and the postage from Global has gone through the roof due to hazardous materials regulations. Thought that they had that sorted ages ago. Order cancelled.
|Alan Gorham_||02/04/2020 21:05:11|
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I'm probably going to sound grumpy here but how many times is Steve Webb going to tell us in this thread that Steve Webb Models is open?
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