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RC IC Engines, you've probably never heard of.

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Paul Marsh14/04/2020 15:03:47
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I bet there are many IC engines, that most would never have heard of. Even copies of OS/SC types, or only available in some countries.

I'm going to kick off with the most famous of the "unknowns" - many of you would have heard of "Mutunuc".

There was a 40, 61,65 and 80, and so far only have 2 or three of the 61's and 65. two are in models, three are new in boxes.

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Paul Marsh14/04/2020 15:16:29
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MFA "Panther 61"

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Paul Marsh14/04/2020 15:17:48
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Tiger Shark. Have .39, 40 and 61, also a 120 as well (on the shelf.)

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Paul Marsh14/04/2020 15:19:09
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JBA Engines. a 40 and 61.

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Paul Marsh14/04/2020 15:21:26
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DC Engines . Whoquestion

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Paul Marsh14/04/2020 15:22:31
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Force Engines (apparently very big in US, as their car engines are well known.)

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Barrie Lever14/04/2020 15:53:12
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We will be hearing more of Force as apparently they have taken over the tooling for the ASP SC range.

The whole Chinese engine scene is a disaster really, they have destroyed the Global manufacturing interest in main stream aero RC engines and then after making the market worthless they go and pull the rug from the factory to play another game.

I would wager that OS are only still making engines for two reasons 1) Japanese pride and 2) Futaba money.

Be careful what you wish for !!

For the OP what about the mid 1970's range called Profi?

There was also a ghastly Taiwanese engine that came out at about the same time as the first Thunder Tigers, I remember the engine was also sold with a trainer kit, terrible thing as I remember.

B.

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Dad_flyer14/04/2020 16:01:47
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Will the lockdown last long enough to build models for them all? Or will it be one model with engines strung along the wings?

Paul Marsh14/04/2020 16:07:33
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I have 300 plus engines spare on the shelf and 200 in a random box, just used 2 up this week on new builds, anyway.

Ok next one, who has heard of "G" engines? Looks like a OS 46 AX, and runs well. Bought it in a model and the other OS 46 was £5 including the model, but needed clean and bearings, the" G" engine runs really well and flew it last year.

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Robin Colbourne14/04/2020 16:44:18
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Presumably some of these are out of the same Chinese or other Far-Eastern factory, and 'Badge Engineered' to suit the distributor.
As I understand it SC, ASP and Magnum were all from the same source, Sanye. SC were sold via Perkins to the UK and Commonwealth countries, ASP were initially sold by Indy R/C in the USA and later by Horizon.

Other 'makes' you could include are:

Bluebird, distributed by MFA

Flash or FLH (around the time Thunder Tiger first arrived on these shores)

Leo

J'EN - Just Engines 'own brand'

Were Mutunuc ever get sold in the UK officially? The ones I have were £20 in a plastic bag 'pig in a poke' from SMC at Sandown.

Paul Marsh14/04/2020 16:45:37
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Vmax, Macgregor used to distribute these. Probably fairly well known,but not available now.

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Robin Colbourne14/04/2020 16:58:46
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Moving away from the Chinese and Taiwanese engines, how about these three from Italy?

Cipolla - various sizes in the 1970s & 80s, they still making model car engines by the looks of it.

Kosmik sold by Micromold (as far as I can recall).

Como - Como was initially a Super Tigre engine built for control line aerobatics (stunt) but then sold with an R/C carb. Unusally for a stunt engine it had Schneurle porting.

Barrie Lever14/04/2020 17:29:16
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Posted by Robin Colbourne on 14/04/2020 16:44:18:

Flash or FLH (around the time Thunder Tiger first arrived on these shores)

Robin

Yes Flash was the horrible little thing.

Cipolla made good engines, Gino Voghera who was the World Champion at CL team racing in the early 1980's worked there.

Kosmik were made by the same Kosmik who made go-kart engines.

What about the Fitzpatrik 60 from the USA, lovely looking 60 aerobatic engine, or equally the Redshift 60 from Sheffield.

Dig deep, I think you will come up with some more.

B.

Paul Marsh14/04/2020 17:48:35
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The Flash Engine, with box and manual...

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I had this one in a model for years and literally wore it out. Never was powerful but didn't seem that bad and remember had a big tank in a wonder type plane and had an hour flight of it, and never stopped.

Robin Colbourne14/04/2020 18:43:54
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How about Master Engines from Russia? Master Motors - Russia

Meteor Engines in 40 & 60 sizes from her in the UK in the mid to late 1970s

Ueda Engines from Japan in the 1960s and 70s

Phil Kraft, the R/C manufacturer and designer of the Super-Fli, Bar-Fli and Ugly Stick in the USA did his own Kraft 61.

I assume we are only doing two stroke glow engines, otherwise the list starts getting quite long with the various four strokes from Magnum (UK), Powermax, Kalt, Kavan and so on; not to mention all the two stroke weedwacker and chainsaw petrol engine conversions (Quadra, Tartan, Fox (from Italy) US Engines etc.).

Paul Marsh14/04/2020 18:58:23
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No, might as well do all engines. see how many types there are. Still got some more but that's it for today, but some more weird ones to follow.

Peter Christy14/04/2020 19:02:06
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A few years back, I had an "AirSupply" .40 engine in a helicopter. I believe it was made in Japan.

I tried it on my usual 16% nitro heli fuel, and it didn't like it at all! Switched to straight (no nitro), and it ran like a turbine! Unusual, as Japanese engines usually like their nitro....!

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Pete

Robin Colbourne14/04/2020 19:03:16
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Posted by Paul Marsh on 14/04/2020 18:58:23:

No, might as well do all engines. see how many types there are. Still got some more but that's it for today, but some more weird ones to follow.

Oh dear. In that case Paul, I'm going to have to go up in the roof and rummage through a few boxes...

Paul Marsh14/04/2020 19:09:42
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Oh dear. In that case Paul, I'm going to have to go up in the roof and rummage through a few boxes...

Go on, there is nothing else to do and makes an interesting thread in these difficult times.cool

Brian Cooper14/04/2020 20:27:18
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I had a couple of GMS 2000 engines about 25 years ago. One was a .47, the other was a 1.20 . . They were good, solid engines.

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