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martin collins 131/05/2020 10:20:59
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Peter Miller31/05/2020 12:29:24
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THat is really amazing.

ken anderson.31/05/2020 14:03:43
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just watched also....amazing...life saver .

ken anderson...ne..1...life savers dept.

eflightray31/05/2020 14:39:41
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Southampton University has recently flown a UAV from Southampton to The Isle of Wight for transporting medical supplies.

It's rather large, (like enormous, though couldn't find any dimensions),

has a range of 1000km (620 miles) and can carry a payload of up to 100kg in a hold around the size of an estate car boot. --

 
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Edited By eflightray on 31/05/2020 14:40:18

Steve J31/05/2020 15:30:28
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Zipline seem to be doing well. If memory serves, their first operations were in Rwanda a few years ago.

Posted by eflightray on 31/05/2020 14:39:41:

Southampton University has recently flown a UAV from Southampton to The Isle of Wight for transporting medical supplies.

There is also a UAV trail between Oban and Mull going on at the moment.

https://www.argyll-bute.gov.uk/news/2020/may/updated-oban-airport-supports-drone-trials-medical-supplies-between-oban-and-isle-mull

Edited By Steve J on 31/05/2020 15:31:40

Peter Jenkins31/05/2020 16:26:34
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Interesting. Reminds me of a small UAV called Scan Eagle by a small company in Oregon that Boeing bought. Scan Eagle was originally conceived for use in spotting fish in the Pacific for US fishermen. It was then turned into a reconnaissance device for the US military in Iraq. The RN trialled it and were shaken that the drone could be sending back video of the warship but no one or sensor on the warship could see it as it flew by half a mile away! This was back in 2007.

It looks like a model aeroplane, then with a 10 cc petrol engine and a duration of 28 hours. It was launched by catapult as in the video in the OP. Recovery was to fly it into a rope trailing from a mast using differential GPS for the rope to be contacted on either wing. The rope then slid down the wing to a hook at the end of the wing tip. As soon as the Scan Eagle was captured, the engine was cut and the aircraft hauled in. This was demonstrated at sea with recovery to a moving ship.

In a way, nothing new although a slight change of role and the use of GPS to deliver goods to a specific location. The biggest problem then, and now, was to integrate it into a world of manned aviation. We are still not there in the west with operating regular services as shown although there is no problem with operating such services in the under developed parts of the world as its far easier to allocate a dedicated route and tell manned aviation to stay away. Plus there are not RC flyers there!

Scan Eagles had a pretty good safety record and flew thousands of hours in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Peter Jenkins31/05/2020 16:55:40
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Video of Scan Eagle launch and recovery here.

Barrie Lever31/05/2020 17:38:30
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I wonder what the design justification is for the Southampton Uni project? which needs a decent size runway when the Zipline can take off and land in a small industrial complex.

Looks like some tax payers money has gone west to me.

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Frank Skilbeck31/05/2020 18:48:50
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Posted by Barrie Lever on 31/05/2020 17:38:30:

I wonder what the design justification is for the Southampton Uni project? which needs a decent size runway when the Zipline can take off and land in a small industrial complex.

Looks like some tax payers money has gone west to me.

B.

Different duties, Southampton Uni project has a bigger payload and probably a much bigger range, plus by landing at the other site it can be reloaded and goods returned. The Zipline system would require a capture and launch system at both ends to do this, Southampton one looks like a grass strip is all that is needed.

Barrie Lever31/05/2020 18:55:42
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Frank

The payload capacity of the Southampton Uni UAV is quite large.

The target point landing strip was grass by all accounts nevertheless a fairly large one.

I suppose I am just sore about the Southampton Uni project because it was being bigged up and cost a load of money when a couple of local chaps in work boats could have done the same cross Solent delivery.

B.

J D 831/05/2020 20:03:31
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Long term I do not think the Southhampton uni project is a viable UK delivery system but the Solent delivery is great PR for them.

Where it could be very useful is transport of emergency supplies in more remote parts of the world.

Richard Clark 231/05/2020 20:29:38
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Posted by eflightray on 31/05/2020 14:39:41:

Southampton University has recently flown a UAV from Southampton to The Isle of Wight for transporting medical supplies.

It's rather large, (like enormous, though couldn't find any dimensions),

has a range of 1000km (620 miles) and can carry a payload of up to 100kg in a hold around the size of an estate car boot. --

Edited By eflightray on 31/05/2020 14:40:18

Good that. There's a NOTAM (Notice to Airmen) about it. May be flying between 08:00 to 12:00 BST any day between 6th May to 30th June.

Frank Skilbeck31/05/2020 20:44:16
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Posted by Barrie Lever on 31/05/2020 18:55:42:

Frank

The payload capacity of the Southampton Uni UAV is quite large.

The target point landing strip was grass by all accounts nevertheless a fairly large one.

I suppose I am just sore about the Southampton Uni project because it was being bigged up and cost a load of money when a couple of local chaps in work boats could have done the same cross Solent delivery.

B

You are right the medical supplies could have been delivered in many ways but the technology needs to be tested somewhere, and this looks like a good opportunity to get proper operational feedback, or would you rather the UK didn't fund this type of R&D projects at UK universities?

Barrie Lever31/05/2020 21:15:34
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Frank

No I think the UK government should be funding and promoting this kind of thing.

A small part of my professional work is in the UAV business so I benefit from this kind of research.

I live in the Solent area and know the take off site well and the stretch of water, I guess I did not like the hype.

Regards

Barrie

Richard Clark 231/05/2020 22:54:20
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Posted by Barrie Lever on 31/05/2020 21:15:34:

Frank

No I think the UK government should be funding and promoting this kind of thing.

A small part of my professional work is in the UAV business so I benefit from this kind of research.

I live in the Solent area and know the take off site well and the stretch of water, I guess I did not like the hype.

Regards

Barrie

It's sponsored by a couple of commercial outfits and a charity that does work in 'undeveloped' countries. The university is well known for both its aircraft and 'autonomous' work and may even be making a profit (or at least covering the costs of further educating its post graduates).

Edited By Richard Clark 2 on 31/05/2020 23:04:49

Barrie Lever31/05/2020 23:49:18
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Richard

I know well what the uni is known for, I have worked with them on a number of occasions.

I was not inspired in any way with this project though, and remember I have some bench marks from my involvement in UAV's to judge it by.

I think the exercise was actually to do with a UAV operating in an active airspace.

The Sharmans remembered you.

Regards

Barrie

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Edited By Barrie Lever on 31/05/2020 23:53:32

Richard Clark 201/06/2020 07:25:42
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Posted by Barrie Lever on 31/05/2020 23:49:18:

Richard

I know well what the uni is known for, I have worked with them on a number of occasions.

I was not inspired in any way with this project though, and remember I have some bench marks from my involvement in UAV's to judge it by.

I think the exercise was actually to do with a UAV operating in an active airspace.

The Sharmans remembered you.

Regards

Barrie

uav.jpg

Edited By Barrie Lever on 31/05/2020 23:53:32

I thought you would probably know that..

As for the Sharmans, I worked under Geoff for some years and got on with him well. I also very much liked his 'co conspirator' who's name was Norman, who I later briefly met by chance, long after we had both retired in the Cricketers pub at Easton, near Winchester.

At IBM I only knew Richard because of Southampton Tech, and I only went there to 'show willing' and left the course half way through, as I believe several others did. I don't think either of us knew the other built model planes.

You probably now realise I am not here under my real name as publicising that can produce lots of spam. Similarly my email name for every purpose, not just here, is just a random string of allowable characters.

Regards..

Barrie Lever01/06/2020 09:15:51
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Yes I am pretty sure I know who you are.

I will protect your anonymity.

Best Regards

Barrie

Cuban801/06/2020 10:13:07
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Let's not confuse the very practical use of drones within a specialised area and function such as search and rescue or medical emergencies etc, with the Pizza, or whatever, delivery service to your garden nonsense being pushed by some companies for publicity purposes - and always seems to be three or four years away from implimentation, year after year.

Important to draw a line between the two IMHO.

 

 

Edited By Cuban8 on 01/06/2020 10:15:17

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