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The Alpina is back!

The biggie from Mpx returns, this time all moulded...

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MattyB28/08/2020 14:39:16
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Posted by Trevor on 27/08/2020 08:17:49:

Hmmm indeed! I think I'll hang on to my 30yr old Alpina Magic I seem to recall that it cost a tenth of the figures being quoted for the new one - but I did have to lash out on four Futaba 128 servos! Some of the white film isn't as white as it once was but apart from that it shows little sign of ageing.

Someone else suggested in the BARCS thread that the originals started out at about the £150 mark - I was disbelieving I admit, but I guess it must be true. I suspect a secondhand RTF variant in good condition such as yours would have appreciated in value considerably since then, though obviously in real terms inflation will mean you won't have made anything. Still, 30 years fun for ~£0 isn't bad value!

Frank Skilbeck28/08/2020 16:56:25
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I suppose that's also a reflection of the construction too, back in the day it would have been a fiberglass fuselage and a set of foam veneered wings, now it's an all molded construction and the price is on par with similar sized molded gliders.

For comparison around 30 years ago I bought a Pat Teakle HP18 which was around £150, before Lasercut sailplanes couldn't get the foam veneered wings anymore I recall they were selling for around £350-400, and now the part kit, fiberglass fus and wing ribs is £250. Must get on a build the Vega kit I've been meaning to start for the last 4 years.

MattyB29/08/2020 00:27:17
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Yeah, for what you get and the high standard of pre-fabrication (these are made by Tomahawk Aviation who have a great reputation for quality) I don’t think they are bad value. The overall number is big, but then it’s a lot of aeroplane...

Callsign Tarnish29/08/2020 08:30:49
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I can speak of Tomahawk. I had one of theirs arrive yesterday and although I haven't started the assembly yet I unpacked it all to check for transport damage (none as it was very well packaged) and the quality is exceptional.

Frank Skilbeck29/08/2020 08:43:32
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Posted by Callsign Tarnish on 29/08/2020 08:30:49:

I can speak of Tomahawk. I had one of theirs arrive yesterday and although I haven't started the assembly yet I unpacked it all to check for transport damage (none as it was very well packaged) and the quality is exceptional.

Come on you can't tease us, what is it?

MattyB09/09/2020 16:50:47
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Some pics of unboxing an Alpina from Planet-Soaring on Face-ache.... Quality looks tip top, though packaging is somewhat basic considering the value of the airframe.

After much vascillating and oscillating between the two models I have finally ordered the Antaris Carbotec Elektro today. Should be here in a week or so apparently; the build will be over on RCGroups, but I will be sure to post a few highlights here too if people are interested.

Edited By MattyB on 09/09/2020 16:59:30

Callsign Tarnish09/09/2020 19:33:35
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Hmmm, looking at those photos I'm not convinced about the quality for an all moulded model, and the packaging would give me real cause for concern surprise

MattyB09/09/2020 19:45:12
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Posted by Callsign Tarnish on 09/09/2020 19:33:35:

Hmmm, looking at those photos I'm not convinced about the quality for an all moulded model, and the packaging would give me real cause for concern surprise

I am sure the quality of the model will be fine - I just think they haven’t gone for razor thin TE to ensure it has a longer life. The packaging is pretty rubbish though And there was no option to upgrade it so I refused to pay by BACS as they requested and put it on a CC for added protection. They also told me on email that they would take on the task of claiming from the postal service if it was damaged in any way. Time to cross my fingers...

MattyB16/09/2020 13:43:57
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My Antaris has arrived undamaged (though that is more by luck than anything else; the packaging was poor). Photos and first thoughts here, and here are some more from another UK buyer.

Edited By MattyB on 16/09/2020 13:46:02

Steve J16/09/2020 15:50:03
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Very nice.

I am not sure of the wisdom of a carbon canopy (assuming that it is carbon and not a lookalike) even if it is very pretty.

Robert Welford16/09/2020 16:00:04
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I have them on my Tangent Alpina and EleKtromaster so are no different. I'm not sure whether they are carbon or glass with black resin.

Worth testing whether they are transparent to 2.4 GHz if you plan to have aerials within cockpit area.

MattyB16/09/2020 16:10:17
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Posted by Robert Welford on 16/09/2020 16:00:04:

I have them on my Tangent Alpina and EleKtromaster so are no different. I'm not sure whether they are carbon or glass with black resin.

Worth testing whether they are transparent to 2.4 GHz if you plan to have aerials within cockpit area.

Yes, that test is definitely on my list to do early on in the build - I have RSSI on my transmitter so the effect will be clear to see. If it is carbon I will route the aerials outside (though I'm also going to have a 1.5g satellite RX right down at the back of the fuselage at the base of the fin which should help).

Edited By MattyB on 16/09/2020 16:29:54

MattyB19/09/2020 14:11:19
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Harrumph...sad

Houston we have a problem; the build is stopped due to an issue with the wing spar position in one panel that may have structural implications. I've just emailed Mpx; let's see what they say...

MattyB25/09/2020 15:10:48
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Posted by MattyB on 19/09/2020 14:11:19:

Harrumph...sad

Houston we have a problem; the build is stopped due to an issue with the wing spar position in one panel that may have structural implications. I've just emailed Mpx; let's see what they say...

Good news... Multiplex are replacing my wing set. I should have the new ones sometime next week, at which point the build can recommence. It was certainly a lot easier than trying to sort an issue with HK customer service...

Edited By MattyB on 25/09/2020 15:11:36

FlyinBrian27/09/2020 08:49:13
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Posted by Richard Clark 2 on 31/07/2020 07:08:36:
Posted by Frank Skilbeck on 30/07/2020 22:31:42:

Can't also help thinking that there is a niche in the market for good quality fibreglass fuselage with foam veneered wing gliders, a few years ago I picked up a part built Multiplex Fiesta, while it won't perform like a mouldie it does fly really well and just about always accompanies me to the slope.

 

In the '70s I used to fly typical .60 sized aerobatic models, I worked out that to get one into the air, say my "Super Star" cost me c £350.00. Inflation since 1970 means that 350.00 in 1970  is now worth over £5,000.

Ok this included engine, retracts, and radio but it makes the Alpina seem a bargain

Edited By FlyinBrian on 27/09/2020 08:51:16

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