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Trevor Crook02/08/2020 17:05:55
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Shame a plastic 115mm spinner won't do. I bought a "just in case" spare for my recently acquired FMS Bf109F (below) and it was less than a tenner.

Certainly no nasty traits with this 109, flies very well.

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Eric Robson02/08/2020 18:21:09
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Went to the field today and the farmer we rent it off must have found the aileron and put it by our store shed. It looks like the sheep have been tasting it but no damage. Giving the plane a check over I removed the cowl and a few things had come loose. I rechecked the prop for balance and it was perfect , Not happy with the engine vibration.

Doc Marten02/08/2020 18:48:41
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Posted by Eric Robson on 02/08/2020 10:34:39:

Brian. I was looking through a thread on the forum some time back and some one was turning aluminium spinners. He made a former and spun the ali. on it then turned the back plate. I can't remember where (old age thing) but may be some one would remember . He could possibly turn the back plate if you had the spinner. It may be worth starting a thread to see if someone could help.

Dave Windy Miller.

A skilled modeller and a thoroughly absorbing thread.

Rojair ME109

Edited By Doc Marten on 02/08/2020 18:51:41

Eric Robson02/08/2020 19:10:45
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Thanks Doc. that was the thread, I built the Rojair Seafury and Mustang both great kits at the time.

Trevor, the FMS 109 looks good  I have the FW190 the long undercarriage does like our grass strip but it is  good in the air.

Edited By Eric Robson on 02/08/2020 19:15:57

Trevor Crook03/08/2020 07:24:29
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Eric, one of the drivers in my purchase of the FMS 109 was seeing my son's 190 fly. Our strip is kept well mown so no ground handling problems, it lands so slowly with those big flaps, and the forward rake of the gear helps stop noseovers. My 109 also comes in slowly with those complex flaps, and its wheels are well forward, so no noseovers yet! Of course, with that narrow track its best to avoid landing cross-wind.

Interesting to note some differences between the two FMS machines. The 190 has sprung oleos, the 109 doesn't, but the latter does have a retractable tailwheel.

David Davis03/08/2020 07:30:15
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Talking of things falling off models in flight, it was a lovely calm day here in central France yesterday so I thought I'd fly my scruffy old Roy Scott BE2e. It's not over-powrered by an OS 70 FL and because of it's draggy airframe it only flies on calm days. I don't find it an easy model to fly. I find myself having to use aileron, rudder and elevator all at the same time and yesterday was no exception so I thought nothing of it. I once had a Puppeteer and that displayed simillar characteristics but the Puppeteer was easier to fly and capable of aerobatics.Perhaps the BE2 needs a little more nose weight, the president of my club certainly thinks so, but I took off alright and flew it through a few circuits and eights until it was time to land. The landing was uneventful and I taxied it back.

It was then that I noticed that the clevis on the port ailerons had detached itself and for some of the flight I had been flying on only one set of ailerons!

The picture of it in flight yesterday must have been taken before the clevis detached itself!

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be2e sunday 2nd august 2020 sfter landing sans port ailerons..jpg

Edited By David Davis on 03/08/2020 07:35:16

J D 803/08/2020 08:29:05
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The clevis may have already detached and the air flow would then be holding the aileron up.

Some early aircraft had ailerons that worked only one way [ pull for down ] and when on the ground they would just hang for down like yours is doing.

Eric Robson03/08/2020 09:18:44
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Hi Trevor, I rarely get to use the flaps on my models as it is not often we get light breezes or calm days. I have had a problems with the 190 oleo's the screws in the slot come out and despite having a good assortment of small screws I had nothing that matched the thread. I have re-tapped it and have used a screw with a big cheese head to fit in the slot which the plastic guide ran in, other than that it is great .

David, always nice to get a model back safely when something comes adrift. That's a nice looking model not suitable for my flying site, I don't take my SE.5 out much for the wind, it tends to gust a lot, big heavy models fare better.

David Davis03/08/2020 09:22:52
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Posted by Eric Robson on 03/08/2020 09:18:44:

Hi Trevor, I rarely get to use the flaps on my models as it is not often we get light breezes or calm days. I have had a problems with the 190 oleo's the screws in the slot come out and despite having a good assortment of small screws I had nothing that matched the thread. I have re-tapped it and have used a screw with a big cheese head to fit in the slot which the plastic guide ran in, other than that it is great .

David, always nice to get a model back safely when something comes adrift. That's a nice looking model not suitable for my flying site, I don't take my SE.5 out much for the wind, it tends to gust a lot, big heavy models fare better.

I like the overhead exhaust myself! Just like the real thing.

dave windymiller03/08/2020 21:06:25
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Dave Windy Miller.

A skilled modeller and a thoroughly absorbing thread.

Rojair ME109

Edited By Doc Marten on 02/08/2020 18:51:41

Very kind words thank you. Heres the link to the spinner side thread!!

Here

Good luck!

Eric Robson03/08/2020 22:48:53
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Great thread Dave I did not know that Bakalite was still available. I am old enough to remember when almost everything was made from it that is now made from plastics.

dave windymiller04/08/2020 10:28:50
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When you are involved with a closing down power station "available" = stuff that would find more use in my garage than mixed in with demolition rubble!!! wink

Eric Robson04/08/2020 18:44:16
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I was at the other end Dave, I was a plant fitter during the construction of Ironbridge B power station.

dave windymiller04/08/2020 20:56:55
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I spent a very happy few years at Ironbridge during its biomass conversion before closure!

Eric Robson04/08/2020 21:36:56
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I was there 1966 -1971 great place many happy memories too.

leccyflyer27/08/2020 18:10:10
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Everything comes to he who waits Shortly after this thread a suitable spinner popped up on FB Marketplacce which was ideal for my CML Bf109 - which has just been delivered today. Ideal.

Eric Robson27/08/2020 19:49:40
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Good news Brian, I am waiting for a Chiltern models part kit to turn up for sale some time, I am currently flying a Tucano from their range it is my favourite sport scale model at the moment. A Chipmunk or a Provost would be nice. they have been long out of production I bought the Tucano from Al's Hobbies it was an un started kit from some one's estate..

Trevor Crook27/08/2020 21:39:03
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That's a coincidence, I also have a Chiltern Models Tucano! I picked it up at a club auction in part kit form some years ago. It's a great flier with a 500W 4s leccy setup. A bit nose heavy, but that stops it tip stalling.

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I also had the Provost many years ago, and that tip stalled like a good-un!

Ben B27/08/2020 22:36:57
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Once when flying my hiboy2 I realised mid flight they I had no elevator authority. Transpires the clevis had popped off. Thankfully it happened when the plane was mostly horizontal. I gave it a blip of throttle and the nose rose. Did a few circuits and then bizarrely did one of the smoothest landings I've ever done. I'm still not quite sure how it landed rather than rekitting- the R/C gods were smiling on me that day.

Martin Harris27/08/2020 23:49:44
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Similar experience when test flying a clubmate's low wing aerobatic model some years ago - suddenly encountered flutter during a high speed pass and lost elevator...the clevis had come off the servo arm despite a fuel tube keeper.

The model maintained height at a fairly high power setting but I didn't fancy the possibility of the secondary effect of rudder dropping the nose so embarked on a very wide aileron turn circuit (without elevator the turning effect of ailerons is severely limited) and controlled the descent (as you should) with throttle - a blip bringing the nose up to effect a reasonable (but not what I would call one of my best) landing.

Looks like Private Frazer JD8's dire prediction might be slightly pessimistic!

Edited By Martin Harris on 27/08/2020 23:55:02

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