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Steve Colman08/08/2020 17:36:23
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I was about to get a Valiant 10 cc.
Then I came across this pretty semi scale Cessna 150 by Sebart.

Both around the same price, very similar size. Both trainer type high wingers but capable of aerobatics. Valiant has flaps, Cessna no flaps but leading edge slats, Cessna up to 1Kg lighter.

Have everything suitable for Valiant apart from motor. Have everything suitable for Cessna apart from servos. So would be more or less equal financially.

Now I have a dilemma.

So, if it were you, which would you choose and why?

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Peter Christy08/08/2020 18:14:15
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The Valiant!

I don't know either model, but the undercarriage on the Cessna looks "stalky" and fragile - and I like tail-draggers! laugh

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Pete

Colin Carpenter08/08/2020 18:22:55
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Sebart. If it flies as well as all his other designs then it will be superb ! The Shark with slats will hover , motor off , in a12 mph wind ! Colin

Geoff S08/08/2020 18:28:04
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The Valient for the same reasons as Pete.

Geoff

PS but you know which one you really want already. You're just putting off the decision to give us a little entertainment

Capt Kremen08/08/2020 20:03:22
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Paved runway or grass?

Trikes, (especially typical 'thin/weak'n'wobbly ARTF u/c ones), fair better on paved or smooth surfaces.

If your field has short grass, ground is hard, then trikes can work with a little care.

Having said that, even taildragger u/c wire assemblies, as supplied in many (not all), kits can be 'wobbly' and bend in anything but the lightest arrival.

My choice as you're asking - The Sebart.

Steve Colman08/08/2020 21:07:15
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A 2 each draw at the moment and some interesting posts which I thank you for.

Peter, I prefer tail draggers too !

Colin, I have a Shark so very familiar with it's flying abilities. I also have an Angel too. The only decent video of the Cessna shows it to be equally impressive as all Sebart designs.

Capt Kremen, flying field has 2 tarmac runways so no problem.

And, finally Geoff. No I haven't made a decision yet and I really can't decide. In an ideal world I would have both in a shot but that's just not possible unfortunately.

Colin Carpenter08/08/2020 21:11:37
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Steve - with those 2 in your stable I doubt it’s flying capabilities will be much different! FMS Avanti!!! Colin

alex nicol08/08/2020 21:29:18
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Valiant, I prefer tail dragges ......... checkout the you tube videos on the Valiant

cymaz09/08/2020 08:39:52
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Posted by alex nicol on 08/08/2020 21:29:18:

Valiant, I prefer tail dragges ......... checkout the you tube videos on the Valiant

+1. Though I would like the 30cc size. I can see them!

Nick Cripps09/08/2020 16:34:32
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Valiant - with floats!

Jon Laughton09/08/2020 21:33:20
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Posted by Colin Carpenter on 08/08/2020 18:22:55:

Sebart. If it flies as well as all his other designs then it will be superb ! The Shark with slats will hover , motor off , in a12 mph wind ! Colin

Colin is correct - the Sebart range fly wonderfully as pattern aerobats and/or 3D models. They have no vices and are light/strong. Set them up with minimum throws and a less experienced pilot can fly them well - usually land slowly too if set up correctly. Out of the entire range the Wind S 50 would be my recommended favourite .

Jon

Steve J09/08/2020 21:55:45
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Posted by Colin Carpenter on 08/08/2020 18:22:55:

If it flies as well as all his other designs then it will be superb!

I have a Mytho S 30e and I don't like it. I wish I had bought something else.

john stones 110/08/2020 00:08:00
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Valiant for me. looks fun easy to see. nerd

Chris Walby10/08/2020 07:51:38
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IMHO,

Location of wheels makes no difference (for you)

Not flown either so I would go with the Valiant as it has flaps that you can deploy when you want (I assume the slats are fixed) and thus extends the flight performance range (for me a bit more interesting long term).

….One question, please do let us know what you choose and why + how you get on with it. smiley

David Davis10/08/2020 08:20:09
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+1 for the Valiant.

The other one looks dorky with that all too obviously model aeroplane undercarriage!

Bob Cotsford10/08/2020 12:48:01
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Valiant. I quite like the H9 kits, and while the Sebart stuff that I've seen fly well they're not as substantial if you fly from grass and won't cope as well with ham-fisted landings. And the 'Cessna' does look a bit dorky!

Mike T11/08/2020 12:49:16
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Valiant, 'cos it looks a bit Citabria-ish (but needs bigger spats and wheels - those fitted look under-proportioned)

Not the Cessna, 'cos it looks like a Cessna... cheeky

Steve Colman11/08/2020 17:05:16
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I did some empirical research of a sort this morning using the 3 models in the photo.

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Whilst not exactly scientific the result is that "The flaps have it"

Many thanks to all that contributed. Now, I'll have to sell a couple of models to fund the purchase of my new Valiant.

Unless of course, I come across something else .......................................

Edited By Steve Colman on 11/08/2020 17:05:38

Edited By Steve Colman on 11/08/2020 17:07:18

cymaz11/08/2020 19:10:59
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yes

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