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Stuart Z03/11/2020 21:14:49
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With the demand (!) for electric cars the availability or lack of lithium seems inevitable. Best not get rid of IC engines yet

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Robin Colbourne03/11/2020 21:22:37
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Posted by RICHARD WILLS on 03/11/2020 21:13:56:

We will be able to visit the shadier side of town and try to "score" some sheets of cross grain from the back of a dodgy transit.

laugh That sounds remarkably like one or two sellers at the Old Warden model flying events!

Eric Robson03/11/2020 23:55:35
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During the war they made cardboard replicas of tanks and aircraft to fool the Germans into thinking the invasion would be from the Kent side. We should build cardboard replicas of wind turbine blades to fool the Chinese into thinking it is better than balsa and we can then exchange it for a load of balsa .

I think spent to much time listening to the Goon show.

Richard I can't get into the spirit of being a ghost writer.

philip pember05/11/2020 00:00:16
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before we all go crazy about the balsa shortage situation, it would pay all on here to have a look on FLITE TEST web site to see whats possible with foamboard, the stuff they use can have paper taken of one side and moulded over a building board edge to make compound curves, have done it myself with corsair and it was a bit crude but but fly`s ok on 3s 2200Mah.many designs and its definatly worth a look,

gangster05/11/2020 06:55:02
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Maybe some of us oldies will go back to our roots and instead of bigger and heavier models and bigger engines and huge battery packs build with balsa strip and tissue. Probably get far more out of it than we do now by having to go bigger and more sophisticated all the time.Less is more or something

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Matt Carlton05/11/2020 14:32:24
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I have to agree. As much as the flite test stuff makes for a viable alternative construction, the overall look of the finished article just isn't for me. It may be that we have to look at alternative materials seriously now, but I'm not sure that foam board covers every base.

There's a bit of a trend towards rather... utilitarian looking models at the moment. For me, the build, the aesthetics, the 'fit and finish' are a big part of the experience. Just because something flies ok isn't always enough. For me anyway, we're all different.

Nigel R05/11/2020 15:02:48
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Foam board works excellently well when used for internal structure. On hack models I'm happy to also use for flat plate controls / tails. Less excited about it as an all over replacement though. Too squishy for structure, especially with glow.

I'm looking at veneered poly bead foam with renewed interest though, that has wings, decks, tailplanes & fins quite well covered.

I've found what looks to be reasonably priced raw Sapele (heavier than Obechi) veneer here:

https://www.thewoodveneerhub.co.uk/collections/all/products/sapele-wood-veneer?variant=35408732913820

£16 for a sheet of 108" x 20" and £5 post. It's around the same price per area, as 1/16 balsa used to be.

and Koto - which I have read is a different name for Obechi

https://www.thewoodveneerhub.co.uk/products/koto-wood-veneer?variant=34781820649628

This looks around 2/3 price of 1/16 balsa.

Love to know if anyone has another source of veneer, BC look to be out of stock on poplar.

Matt Carlton05/11/2020 15:22:41
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Wood Veneer Hub

Oakdale

Used these a couple of times for samples that I used for display bases for static models.

 

Edited By Matt Carlton on 05/11/2020 15:25:15

Piers Bowlan26/11/2020 05:58:27
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SLEC have updated their website with the good news that they have secured a new balsa deal from PNG (Papua New Guinea). Here

Edited By Piers Bowlan on 26/11/2020 06:05:11

kc26/11/2020 11:19:08
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Good news at last. It seems SLEC have balsa coming from Indonesia instead of Papua now. Arriving by the end of the year! Probably take a bit longer to be on sale , but there's hope anyway.

I wonder whatever happened to Ecudor as a supplier of balsa?

Piers Bowlan26/11/2020 11:51:15
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Ops double post.

Edited By Piers Bowlan on 26/11/2020 11:55:54

Piers Bowlan26/11/2020 11:54:57
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The mill hasn't produced it yet and a shipping container takes at least two months from Indonesia, so I think 'by the end of the year' may be a trifle optimistic.

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Nigel R26/11/2020 12:31:05
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To be fair they did state "might" be as much as 150% extra... Good news nonetheless.

Don't panic Mr Mainwaring!

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ken anderson.26/11/2020 12:42:40
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from a possible shortage to some on its way is good.....wait and see the outcome from what Slec have put on their web site...and well done to them...for taking into account their customers.....

ken anderson...ne..1..Slec/balsa dept.

kc26/11/2020 12:45:50
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You may be right Piers but in the 1970's when I used to deal with timber imports from Indonesia ( Ramin mainly ) and Burma (teak) I thought it took about a month, maybe my memory is wrong. Maybe those pre container era shipments were in smaller ships that were able to go through Suez Canal. But it also used to be possible to speed up shipment for important cargo from Far East by shipping to Vladivostock and then by the Trans Siberian Railway to Europe. Cut the transit time to 3 to 4 weeks and was more reliable if my memory is right. But whatever the transit time the goods always got held up in the docks etc and that's what i expect to happen to now. I don't expect balsa until the Spring or Summer! Best customer will get served first and that will surely be film industry and kit makers.

Alan Gorham_26/11/2020 12:57:46
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Posted by ken anderson. on 26/11/2020 12:42:40:

from a possible shortage to some on its way is good.....wait and see the outcome from what Slec have put on their web site...and well done to them...for taking into account their customers.....

ken anderson...ne..1..Slec/balsa dept.

There IS a shortage! Right now you cannot buy medium or soft grade wood from SLEC or Balsa Cabin. Right at the start of the winter building season. If that isn't a shortage then I don't know what is?!

ken anderson.26/11/2020 13:03:30
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nobody arguing about whether there is a shortage or not Alan....here's a thing, the other week when it was first mentioned(a shortage) I decided to google "balsa wood"....there appears to be a few outlets for it...don't know what the quality is like....have a look.

 

ken anderson...ne..1..no argument dept.

Edited By ken anderson. on 26/11/2020 13:27:37

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