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Wingman20/10/2020 10:40:50
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I hope your flying site isn't in the path of one of these as there would be no argument as to who has use of the airspace.

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Engine Doctor20/10/2020 11:02:23
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A very half empty view ? If this is rolled out all over the UK then surely as licensed airspace users they would have to avoid our sites like we have to avoid areas near airports. I'm sure the BMFA will keep an eye on what's going on. There's probably a lot more of this going on already. than we realise or have noticed.

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Doc Marten20/10/2020 11:15:06
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I wouldn't worry too much, I anticipate that these will be non emergency flights and as such be subject to the same legislation as the emergency services.

malcolm woodcock 120/10/2020 12:23:35
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I just hope it's not going to be another scramble by a dire government to steal our frequencies. Remember when Thatcher stole 27 megs from us to give to the illegally operated 'citizen band' enthusiasts (whatever happened to that fad, I suppose mobiles took over).

Doc Marten20/10/2020 12:46:14
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Posted by malcolm woodcock 1 on 20/10/2020 12:23:35:

I just hope it's not going to be another scramble by a dire government to steal our frequencies. Remember when Thatcher stole 27 megs from us to give to the illegally operated 'citizen band' enthusiasts (whatever happened to that fad, I suppose mobiles took over).

Errr......and gave us 35MHz as a dedicated frequency. Yeah, that was a really bad deal. dont know

Edited By Doc Marten on 20/10/2020 13:11:53

Steve J20/10/2020 13:05:47
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Posted by Wingman on 20/10/2020 10:40:50:

I hope your flying site isn't in the path of one of these as there would be no argument as to who has use of the airspace.

If a club site ends up in a temporary danger area which is setup due to a BVLOS UAV trial, they should talk to the people running the TDA, e.g. people flying off the Great Orme when the Coastguard were trialling an unmanned helicopter should have been talking to RAF Valley.

Phil Green20/10/2020 13:08:39
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Posted by malcolm woodcock 1 on 20/10/2020 12:23:35:

I just hope it's not going to be another scramble by a dire government to steal our frequencies. Remember when Thatcher stole 27 megs from us to give to the illegally operated 'citizen band' enthusiasts (whatever happened to that fad, I suppose mobiles took over).

She didnt "steal 27 megs from us", in fact by providing a legal band ABOVE our allocation the intention was to encourage illegal users to move out of 'our' section of the band into the new CB27/81 allocation.

alan p20/10/2020 14:01:03
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Not to worry chaps, article in the AAIB notices some body flying a UAV on trials to the Isle of Wright took off then turned the tx off before the automated system kicked incrying 2. That must have been a large carrier bag they used wink 2

malcolm woodcock 120/10/2020 14:38:56
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All I know was that I had a 27 megs load of radio equipment, tx and rx which I could ill afford the replace for a few years.

Doc Marten20/10/2020 15:50:39
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Posted by malcolm woodcock 1 on 20/10/2020 14:38:56:

All I know was that I had a 27 megs load of radio equipment, tx and rx which I could ill afford the replace for a few years.

 

That was the same for everybody.

You could've still used it, you still can. Cars and boats still do.

It was never "stolen", it's still there to use, the CB-ers made the frequency unusable to us, the government of the time actually helped us by allocating a dedicated frequency for model aircraft only and kept the old one for every man and his dog to use legally.

The CB-ers are long gone but I very much doubt that model flyers today would dream of going back to it.

 

 

 

Edited By Doc Marten on 20/10/2020 16:20:00

Tosh McCaber20/10/2020 16:22:52
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Still successfully flying a couple of models with my Kraft 70 gear- (that is- 1970, for the newbies!!). One of the foresaid models was built as far back as 1966. The other- a Chris Foss Phase 4, in 1975.

Gary Murphy 120/10/2020 18:25:49
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See this also and thought here we go again. Remember using birds of prey to down drones? these drones are a worry of damaging jets, what about the birds then????

Then there was the autonomous delivery buggies being trialed, yeah right,they are not going to be vandelised or robbed are they for the goods.

More rubbish to waste money on doing studies.

Knife crime can not get sorted yet want to imprison yobs with offensive dogs. The list goes on.

 

**moderated for site language infringement**

 

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Steve J21/10/2020 06:40:10
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Posted by Gary Murphy 1 on 20/10/2020 18:25:49:

More rubbish to waste money on doing studies.

Indeed. We shouldn't try new things to see if they work better than what we currently do. We should keep hunting and gathering like we have always done. And don't get me started on those round things, what are they called? Wheels? They'll never catch on.

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Pete Collins21/10/2020 08:34:59
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Re: the earlier question "What happened to the CB fad?" The answer was that they legalised it, so all the idiots immediately lost interest! This definitely says something about human mass psychology which might say something attitudes to such things as face mask wearing, pot smoking etc! A forgotten side issue to that debacle was that, prior to then, we used to pay a nominal sum for a transmitting license in order to use 27 Meg until someone pointed out that, since we pay a license fee, we could reasonably expect the government to police the band and do something about the CB problem. Their response was to scrap the license fee!

Cuban821/10/2020 09:50:27
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'Keep Calm and Carry On' folks.

This story comes from my neck of the woods and I watched a brief TV report about it on local news a day or two ago. The same old thing as we've seen many times before. **LINK** Make your own mind up about the claims made for it in this setting.

Of course it makes sense in certain quarters to conduct trials as the technology is undoubtedly available, gains publicity for those involved and is a handy addition to a CV for the ambitious.

In my opinion, the reality and practicality will be somewhat different. I note the following from the article.

The project, which is being funded through a share of a £1.3m grant from the UK Space Agency and European Space Agency, will be based at Broomfield Hospital, Chelmsford, Essex.

The drones will initially be flying between Broomfield Hospital, Basildon Hospital, Essex, and the Pathology First Laboratory, also in Basildon, Essex.

The flight path from Broomfield Hospital to the Pathology First Lab is 22km and takes just under 17 minutes.

The flight path from Basildon Hospital to Pathology First is 11.5km and takes just over nine minutes.

 

Hardly an impressive performance and comparable to what a decent motorbike courier could get at any time of day or night without a concern as to what the weather's doing, and at a fraction of the cost. I can guess that there are other factors that will cause those figures to be somewhat longer as well. Flying further only makes things worse because of limited range and changing weather conditions.

I'm not belittling the technology or holding a reactionary attitude; these clever devices do have a part to play in certain specialist circumstances, but having them to perform in areas where existing arrangements are equal to or maybe even superior should have the downsides pointed out.

By the way, I'm still waiting for the 'drone delivery road show' from Amazon and others to roll into town? That particular one I can't take seriously just because some billionaires are involved with it.

 

Edited By Cuban8 on 21/10/2020 09:53:45

ken anderson.21/10/2020 10:30:00
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2 KG load!....hope it can cope with the north east winds we get up here......Leeds Bradford area will be another challenge for these lads...hope they have a tracker fitted to find them.

ken anderson...ne..1...north east wind dept.

Doc Marten21/10/2020 10:32:20
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Posted by Pete Collins on 21/10/2020 08:34:59:

Re: the earlier question "What happened to the CB fad?" The answer was that they legalised it, so all the idiots immediately lost interest! ...........

If I'm correct there were 2 types of CB which were of different power, the legal one was rubbish and weak to the point of pointless, the other was better but illegal because it swamped the legal frequencies, I don't think the legalising of it lead to it's demise rather the fad petered out, just as skateboarding, Raleigh Choppers and "jacked up" suspension on cars did.

Just passing fads that had an impact us.

 

Edited By Doc Marten on 21/10/2020 10:34:32

Ray Wood 421/10/2020 12:10:48
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Hi All,

You need to remember CB radio pre-dated mobile phones by quite a while 😉,

Talking on a hand held device was a novelty back then ! Imagine what happened since 😀

Regards Ray

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