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Martin McIntosh30/11/2020 15:45:48
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Dambusters from tomorrow on ch5 at 9pm in three parts if anyone is interested. Don`t think it is a repeat. Tirpitz and Bismark on same ch. later.

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Colin Leighfield30/11/2020 20:06:48
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New series by Dan Snow, it’s looking good. The original DamBusters film is on I think Channel 4 at 15.35 tomorrow. I’ve recently finished Max Hastings book on this and it’s probably the best researched work so far, a great follow-on to Paul Brickhill’s original. Highly recommended. Another one is “M for Mother”, about Gibson’s number two on the raid, John “Hoppy” Hopgood, whose plane was badly damaged by ground-fire en-route and then shot down over the Moehne. His plane was the only one lost from which we have a record of what happened on board during the final minutes from survivors. It brings home the heroism of this quiet 21 year old who Gibson said was the best pilot in the squadron. What really sinks in is the tragedy of the 53 young men that died in this raid, also that of those who came back, most that did were also killed later in the war. Very sobering, even now.

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John Wagg30/11/2020 21:05:26
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The film was on TV this afternoon.

There used to be some PC comment about Gibsons dog's name. Cleverly the name has been dubbed over in the film now.

 

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Colin Leighfield30/11/2020 22:52:30
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Hastings’ book uses the dog’s real name and explains the context of the time.

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Colin Leighfield30/11/2020 23:06:34
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My opinion too Doc, history isn’t improved by distorting it.

Richard Acland01/12/2020 00:42:13
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Sometime back there was a strong rumour that the Americans were going to do a remake of the film. They had decided that the dog would be called " Nipper" so as to keep it PC.

DIGGER01/12/2020 07:36:10
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This makes my blood boil, here in Cyprus we tell it as it is, the dogs name was Niger a very common name for a black dog , the RAF should be a shamed to replace his name on his headstone, because of a few idiots. I'm sorry if this upsets anyone on here, like I said we have freedom of speech here. On a lighter note my American cousin was stationed in the UK back in the 70s fell in love with a black labrador at a rescue centre and you can guess the name it came with, the only reason he changed the dogs name was he was posted back to a Base in Alabama.

Martin McIntosh01/12/2020 22:06:21
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Pretty good so far with some great flying shots.

Colin Leighfield01/12/2020 22:28:37
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Very good, working close to Max Hastings’ excellent book by the looks of it. I particularly liked the dusk take-off of a Manchester, I’ve seen that clip before when whoever put the film footage together presumably doesn’t know that it’s not a Lancaster. Even in the gloom, the central third fin of an early Manchester 1 stands out.

Peter Miller02/12/2020 08:28:54
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I haven't watched it, I tend to get irritated with these reconstructions and alterations.

I will just mention that I worked on the last Lancasters on RAF service back in 1956 and actually flew on several air tests in them.

Now that is something to remember. Very noisy, very draughty, very Spartan but absolute joy!!!

Cuban802/12/2020 12:20:26
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All three episodes avaiable on 5Select Freeview ch 55 this coming Sunday evening.

Cuban802/12/2020 13:40:49
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Just watched ep1 on catchup - very good considering the subject has been covered so much in the past. Liked the part where Dan Snow shows 'Just Jane' , she looks fabulous and boy is she tiny inside. I know DS is quite a big bloke but even the guys of smaller stature as they tended to be in years past must have struggled. I was lucky to try out the cockpit of Sally B a few years ago and at 5' 11" I it found quite easy to move around.

Colin Leighfield02/12/2020 22:19:09
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Excellent episode 2 tonight. Having only finished Max Hastings’ book a few days ago it all comes together very well.

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Devcon102/12/2020 22:43:06
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A good watch. Was fortunate enough to enjoy the taxy ride experience in NX611 last year. I got the upper turret position for my excursion, it brought into focus how hellish it must have been to fly and fight in them.

The museum is also an amazing tribute to Bomber Command with focus on operations from Lincolnshire.

As a bonus we had a great cockpit tour and chat with the pilot of the day who was an ex Lancaster BoBMF pilot.

John Wagg02/12/2020 23:07:51
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In the film it was Guy Gibson who came up with the idea for the spotlights height gauge.

Tonights episode said it was the "boffins" who thought of it.

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