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Iain Jeffrey10/02/2009 11:10:53
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Hi Peter
I'm currantly reading your book DESIGNING MODEL AIRCRAFT and wish to design my first model. To date I've built a deagostini spitfire and two ARTF's of which is the Pilatus PC-9. This aircraft is very close in design to the Shorts Tucano. I would like to design and make this model as it would look very good in scale and have some areobatic ability. The problem I have is where could I obtain a decent 3 View drawing to scale up from (Read this chapter last night), I can't seem to get any information about this aircraft  i.e. apart from images from google and RAF site. I would be most grateful if you could point me in some direction on how to obtain information if you have any ideas!! 
I've really enjoyed reading your book and so easy to understand.
 
Thanks
 
Iain
Bruce Richards10/02/2009 15:02:07
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Try Googling "3 view tucano" I there is one set of 3 views of a Tucano. Not sure if it is what you are looking for but hope it helps.
Peter 'Ivanna Crashalot' Savage10/02/2009 23:53:28
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check here, warning if you have dialup!
Iain Jeffrey11/02/2009 07:59:18
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Thanks Bruce, I've Googled the 3 view Tucano as you suggested, got one 3 view just like I'm after but line quality not too good.
Cheers Iain
Iain Jeffrey11/02/2009 08:06:28
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Hi Peter, Cheers for the link, there are hundreds of planes in 3 view, unfortunately  no Shorts Tucano though, there's a Pilatus on there, very similar aircraft. Thought I got lucky for a moment.
Thanks again
Iain
Peter Miller11/02/2009 08:45:30
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Hi Iain
 
Thanks for your kind remarks about my book. I am glad that it has inspired you.
 
Aviation News do a huge range of excellent multiview drawings including the Short Tucano
 
Check them out at
 
 
You can order by phone, not sure about buying on line but you will see when you visit their website. Prices are very reasonable. If they have a back copy you get the whole magazine, if not your get a good photocopy of the pages.
Iain Jeffrey11/02/2009 09:50:56
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Thank you Peter

Just emailed HPC publishing about their Tucano Plans, awaiting their responce.
 
I just takes some direction. Finished the book last night, enjoyed every page. I've got your aircraft modelling techniques vol 1 & 2 to read next, looking forward.
 
Do you have any good sources for model aircraft wing rib section to get a good copy from, this is the only thing that I have any concerns over, which type to use!!!
 
Best Regards
 
Iain.
 
 
Peter Miller11/02/2009 11:07:05
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I am glad that you are a book person. So few people bother to read or use books these days.
 
With regard to wing sections. I mainly use a flat bottomed section these days set at 0 degrees incidence in relation to the thrust line. That is measured at the chord line
 
NACA 3412 is a good one. IT works like a symmetrical section but is easier to build.
 
I invested in a computer program call Compufoil which gives hundreds of sections and allows one to generate all the NACA sections. IT also allows one to design very complex wings but takea a bit of getting used to. I am still learning very fast and only scratched the surface.
 
If you are really interested you can buy and download the program on line.
 
When I go onto my other computer with Compufoil loaded I will see if I can send you the section. Not sure how to do it but will find out. At worst I can print it and scan it and send it that way.
 
I must get Compufoil onto this one. it is new.
 
Iain Jeffrey11/02/2009 12:27:23
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Thanks Peter, all this help is much appreciated.
 
Any help on the wing rib section would also be most helpful.
 
Yes I am a very much a book person, I always like to have real text to read.
 
I might look into the Compufoil program
 
Best Regards
 
Iain.
Peter 'Ivanna Crashalot' Savage11/02/2009 14:52:17
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there is also one called profili v2 which looks quite good, i might be getting it, it is about 15 i think
Dave S.11/02/2009 14:57:25
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Profili 2 is indeed a good program, I have had it for some time. I think the recommended donation was 10 when I got my copy. Good value, for sure.
Peter Miller11/02/2009 18:54:23
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IT occurs to me that one quick and simple answer would be to use the wing section from the Feugray or CAP 21 plans. I have no objection.
Peter 'Ivanna Crashalot' Savage11/02/2009 22:05:45
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i may wait till the exchange rate goes back to normal!
Iain Jeffrey12/02/2009 08:29:12
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Thanks again Peter.
 
I had a look into compufoil, had a play with the demo version, a very interesting program, like you say, it takes a little time to get used to it, maybe a future investment.
 
Will look into the two plans you have mentioned, might be easier to look at a wing section that you know that works.
 
Emailed people at HPC Publishing and will order a set of Short Tucano drawings from them, they have also been very helpful.
 
All your help is very much appreciated. Feel like I've made a big step forward toward this week designing my first model, just finding the information makes it half the battle!!
 
Best Regards
 
Iain
 
 
Peter Miller12/02/2009 18:59:56
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Always glad to help.
 
The day you fly your first own design will give you the biggest boost ever.
 
Peter 'Ivanna Crashalot' Savage12/02/2009 21:46:48
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most of my own designs never flew although they were held together with sellotape
Iain Jeffrey13/02/2009 08:29:12
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Hi Peter,
 
Last question, I promise!!! was the CAP 21 plan, the free plan in the back issue of RCM&E August 2007.
 
Thanks again.
 
Iain.
Peter Miller13/02/2009 13:26:56
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Yes, That was the  CAP plan. The Feugray was more recent and uses a similar section.
 
Peter, sounds more like  Blue Peter designs
 
 

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