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ST Model Blaze

ST Model Blaze

first look - 12/8/10

matt mason31/07/2010 20:22:06
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cheers for all the info chaps
 
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David Ashby - Moderator01/08/2010 06:34:55
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Matt, I had a look at a Blaze in my LMS yesterday. The wing tips are very thin, seemed poorly protected and were damaged in the box I looked inside so do check contents before purchase if you go for the Blaze.
James M01/08/2010 07:16:30
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Hi
 
Have to admit that my tips where slightly warped out of the box, a bit of glass weave tape and white parcel tape and they look good as new - wished I'd used orange tape to see the plane more clearly in flight 
 
Also the ESC gets HOT, think it is the BEC side of thing that is causing it - have a spare E-flite 30amp Switched bec,  from an old Parkzone plane, that I'll try - well if I can find the soldering iron, need to change the connector to a deans.
 
But it is a great airframe - I have a blizzard that is still in the box awaiting the time to build, ill health and a lack of free time is stopping me, it is why I got the Blaze - Ready built. 
matt mason01/08/2010 09:54:47
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i think after consideration i will go for the blizzard.
i have props, esc's and servo's, just need to sort out a motor
.was looking at the motors in airtek . anyone else used these?
Delta Whiskey01/08/2010 15:24:30
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I have flown the blizzard of another club mates, and it is fast enough on the tuning power set, but for an all ready to go option (just add your tx) the Blaze is the one I'm considering, but although it's often called a warmliner rather than a hotliner as is the blizzard, the blaze is capable of going vertical I'm told from an owner whose just got one, from a hand launch which sounds great to me for just over a 100 quid.
 
I have the same manufactures (ST Model's ) MX2 and am pleased with that too !
 
David Ashby - Moderator11/08/2010 08:26:57
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I've just given in to temptation and bought myself one, not flown yet but good first impressions, is everyone finding the ESC behaving ok? 
Bill_B11/08/2010 23:34:27
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Posted by David Ashby - RCME Administrator on 11/08/2010 08:26:57:
I've just given in to temptation and bought myself one, not flown yet but good first impressions, is everyone finding the ESC behaving ok? 
 
You won't be disappointed, it's a brilliant motor glider.
 I have to admit that my ESC was DOA so as I had a spare 40A ESC in my box I fitted that instead of going through the bother of claiming for a new one. Also, I paid less than £100 for mine so I wasn't too fussed. Both my lad's ESC's are still working OK on their Blazes.
Allan Bowker11/08/2010 23:41:19
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I'm sure Ripmax would replace the ESC's.....
 
....just don't ask them about the WOT 4 delivery date
David Ashby - Moderator12/08/2010 06:39:27
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I did this week Allan - Foamy version in 4 weeks, wooden versions Oct.
 
Sorry off topic
 
Good, I'll hopefully get out in a day or two with mine.
Allan Bowker13/08/2010 14:06:07
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Thanks for the info David, although I won't hold my breath
Bill_B19/08/2010 18:19:31
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I just had another great day with the Blaze. I really have no regrets about purchasing this plane and the more I fly it, the more I like it. At first I thought it was a bit tame, but having got more familliar with the Blaze I'm finding out just how far the airframe can be pushed without any nasty surprises. It may not be a hotliner, but it's certainly very entertaining and nice to fly.
 I defy anyone to find a better performing or handling motor glider for the money (£99.99 from Inwood Models).
David perry 119/08/2010 19:38:39
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I flew the blaze from the flat yesterday and managed to find some high level lift.  I had over an hour on one 2200 lipo, some tearing about at low level and some stooging around at a few hundred feet just below the clouds.  Superb machine.  Over an hour!  Brilliant.  Loops and rolls at hundreds of feet up and never so much as a wing flex!
 
Then today I took it to a slope and flew it (theres a vid I hope to put up soon) and i have to say its pretty good in a blow.  Penetration suffers a bit from the drag, its not a blisteringly fast machine -  and it could do with some ballast, but I didnt give it any.
 
Anyway, one one landing it turned over and one of the tail plane tips broke off -  they are paper thin.  I have formed the opinion that its a fabulous model off the flat and possibly gentle slopes, but of anything rough or in a good blow, its likely to be too delicate.  Having said that I did soar it up to almost OOS and then dive vertically down till I chickened out.  The elevators JUST pulled me out prior to the ground but those wings never even creaked!  Lovely!!
 
nevertheless, as a model in its own right it is one of the best I have owned for many years -  its is superb and at a fraction of the cost of a Blizzard.  If I have one niggle its that it is easy to lose sight of it when directly facing to or away from it agains clouds!  Its thin!!
 
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David Ashby - Moderator22/08/2010 14:19:51
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First 4 flights with mine today, very nice. not as fast as a 'Tuning' Blizzard but slippery enough. Little I can add to what's been said here already although it's quite precise in the point rolls where the rudder is better than expected. Flew in 10mph winds and didn't bat an eyelid. Got around 10 mins per 2200mAh pack on mixed throttle aeros.
Tim Mackey22/08/2010 14:57:33
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Sounds good - nice one David.
Yet another to add to the list of things I dont need..... but want
Bill_B24/08/2010 21:47:25
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Posted by David Ashby - RCME Administrator on 22/08/2010 14:19:51:
......... Got around 10 mins per 2200mAh pack on mixed throttle aeros.
 
Only 10 mins? I take it your were using mainly full throttle for your aerobatics?  To date I haven't achieved less than 15 mins of mixed throttle aerobatic flying off the flat with an Overlander 2200mAh 3s battery. Off the slope it's a whole new ball game of course!
 
David perry 124/08/2010 22:29:33
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Yes I raised an eyebrow at ten minutes too.  Hard flown aeros still give me fifteen minutes.
 
David Ashby - Moderator25/08/2010 08:01:57
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Sorry to tax your eyebrow David 
....but 10 it was, yep pretty hard flown of course.
 
By the by, have you measured your current draw? I got 320 watts, 26 amps peak static.   
Bill_B25/08/2010 14:59:57
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  In standard trim (10" x 6" prop) the statically measured current draw settled at 23.4A after about 15 seconds which equates to roughly 250 Watts (in).  I have since fitted an Aeronaut 10" x 7" Cam Carbon prop with the Multiplex Blizzard's spinner assembly and it has transformed the Blaze's performance. It now draws 34.2A statically for a power of approximately 366W (in). It will now go truely vertical from launch and I still get well over 10 mins of intense aerobatics with this setup. Maybe you have a duff battery David?
BTW, how do you achieve your figures? They don't add up.

Edited By Gumball on 25/08/2010 15:02:07

Lee Smalley25/08/2010 15:06:16
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how do you get 34 amp draw for 10 mins on 2200 pack?
Bill_B25/08/2010 15:11:00
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David,  even if you multiply the 26A you're achieving by an optomistic 11.1V, that still only equals 288.6 Watts (in) To achieve your figure of 320 Watts ('in' I assume?) the battery would have to deliver a constant 12.3 Volts. I'm confused as I've never yet managed to get a 3s LiPo to deliver a constant voltage over 12V.

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