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twilightflyer25/11/2010 20:17:43
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I built this aircraft in 1961 whilst serving with the RAF in Malta and for the life im carn't put a name to it, can knowledgable modeller help?.
You'll have to excuse the wing as just as I had taken the shot a gust of wind lifted the port wing.
PS  It was a freeflight model with, I think, Mcoy 35  up front.
Stephen Grigg25/11/2010 20:25:13
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You Microlite looks the same as one in our club,your Sports looks like a Caterham 7,Your Spitfire looks like a Spifire  and your mystery model reminds me of a Super Scorpion,have I won a prize
John Bunting26/11/2010 17:57:49
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Was it built from a kit, a plan - APS perhaps - or maybe it was an American design, as you had a McCoy engine?
twilightflyer28/11/2010 07:52:17
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I remember it as a kit, and the kit was bought from a model shop in Salima(Malta) owned by two brothers.
The photo was taken at the rear of our accomodation block.
twilightflyer28/11/2010 07:54:04
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Posted by Stephen Grigg on 25/11/2010 20:25:13:
You Microlite looks the same as one in our club,your Sports looks like a Caterham 7,Your Spitfire looks like a Spifire  and your mystery model reminds me of a Super Scorpion,have I won a prize

 Sorry Steven, no prize this time!

David Davis28/11/2010 08:15:20
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No sense of scale here Twilight but if it was powered by a McCoy 35 I'd say it must have had a 5-6 foot wingspan. (1.5-1.8 metres.)
 
Had it been smaller I would have guessed the Keil Kraft Ladybird on account of what appears to be a radial cowl.
Peter Miller28/11/2010 08:42:13
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I don't know  what it is...but anyone who thinks it looks like a Super Scorpion needs glasses
twilightflyer28/11/2010 19:08:26
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Posted by David Davis Telemaster Sales UK on 28/11/2010 08:15:20:
No sense of scale here Twilight but if it was powered by a McCoy 35 I'd say it must have had a 5-6 foot wingspan. (1.5-1.8 metres.)
 
Had it been smaller I would have guessed the Keil Kraft Ladybird on account of what appears to be a radial cowl.
 If I recall all those years ago it was about 5-6ft span, carn't remember anything about a radial cowl though.
Th A/C flew very well as I recall and it was flown at the disused airstrip at Ta-Qali, which is now the resident airfield for the twoo model clubs based in Malta.
 
I do hope that the modellers in Malta may see this request and hopefully reply to it, thanks in advance.
 
Ray
Stephen Grigg28/11/2010 19:51:24
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I notice the under carriage is different from my Super Scorpion,but from the picture it still looks similar to a S.Scorpion to me,better get off to Specsavers then hadnt I PeterMay be I should get thesealthough the picture isnt to clear is it
Peter Miller28/11/2010 20:01:04
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The Super Scorpion has fully elliptical wings and the fuselage does not have a straight line in it. The cabin is fully glazed right back to behind the wing.
 
The fuselage has a deeper belly in the cabin area and goes down to a narrow shape at the tail with sweeping curves. It has an upright engine fully exposed.
 
The undercarriage is an assembly with a front wire and a rear wire.
 
I rest my case.
Peter Miller29/11/2010 11:48:55
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Just to prove my point
 
Now tell me that it looks like this aircraft
 

 

 
Stephen Grigg29/11/2010 13:17:22
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Yes thats it just the same thought so PeterI have 2
PatMc29/11/2010 14:12:53
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Veron Stentorian ?
Peter Miller29/11/2010 18:07:30
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Nope! Not a Stentorian I can find pictures of that too if I have to to.
Stephen Grigg29/11/2010 18:26:46
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Yes please Peter
Peter Miller29/11/2010 19:16:16
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Tomorrow. The scanner only works on the other computer and I have to scan some coasters that I had made about 30 years ago.
Stephen Grigg29/11/2010 20:33:15
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Any clues as to what you think it might be Peter?
PatMc29/11/2010 22:22:05
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It's difficult to see what the tips look like in the photo & the fin shape is obscured but size & general layout are similar.
Peter Miller30/11/2010 08:39:33
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Stentorian Colours are wrong should be yellow.
That photo that started this has a straight line along the bottom of the fuselage. Not the curved line of the Stentorian. Also the wings look as if they have parallel chord.
 
Lets look at this logically.
 
The model is large to be powered by a McCoy 35. In Britain we only had a few kit manufacturers. KK, Veron, Mercury and Performance kits.Skyleada may still have been in existence

IT is NOT a Mercury or Veron kit. The only KK kits big enough were the Junior 60, Falcon. Skyleada never made a big power FF model nor did Performance kits.
 
I had started modelling back in 52 so I would know the kits of the day.
 
From this I assume that it can only be an American kit which were very hard to get and very expensive in the UK at the time. I am not familiar with American kits of that time.
 
 

Edited By Peter Miller on 30/11/2010 08:40:22

Danny Fenton30/11/2010 09:31:24
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I grew up in the States and flew Sterling Ringmaster control liners with McCoy 35. Pig of an engine in the UK it had zero compression until it was warm. We used to have a devil of a job to start them on a cold winters day. No whirly leccy starters back then, finger power only
 
Here is a Sterling Cessna 182 circa 1975/6 converted to fly control line witrh a Fox .19
 

Anyway the point LOL sorry, I had several US Sterling kits, and that picture Twilight flyer has posted isn't one of them (as far as I can make out.) I am with Stephen though, can't make out as much detail from the original picture at the start of the thread. Better go back to SpecSavers

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