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Phil Cooke01/01/2011 12:24:22
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Hi and HAPPY NEW YEAR to all!
 
Just realised I've not yet received any correspondance from the BMFA regarding 2011 subs and now I find myself uninsured on 1.1.2011. - I guess this is lost somewhere in the snow backlog of mail, anyone else in the same boat??
 
I will call the BMFA on Tues after the bank holiday and pay my subs over the phone for immediate cover from that point, so I guess no flying till then.

Edited By Phil Cooke on 01/01/2011 12:24:57

Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator01/01/2011 14:21:40
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I just thought of something here. I pay my BMFA fees through my club subscription. Now I've paid my subscription in December - I have my new club membership card etc. But I haven't received my actual BMFA card. Am I insured? I don't know
 
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Phil Cooke01/01/2011 14:35:53
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BEB - guess that depends on whether your club subs secretary has forwarded your clubs renewals and that they have been received and recorded by the BMFA in Leicester.
Martin Harris01/01/2011 14:45:09
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The insurance is normally valid from the time your club receives your renewal - however, I'm not certain whether the club itself needs to re-register (with at least 6 renewals) in order for this to apply?
leccyflyer01/01/2011 14:46:25
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Posted by Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator on 01/01/2011 14:21:40:
I just thought of something here. I pay my BMFA fees through my club subscription. Now I've paid my subscription in December - I have my new club membership card etc. But I haven't received my actual BMFA card. Am I insured? I don't know
 
BEB
 As soon as you hand your dosh to your club secretary you are insured.
 
The club acts as the BMFA's agent for the transfer of monies to BMFA. If requested you can be issued with a temporary BMFA card by the club secretary/membership secretary, which is valid for two months from the date of issue.
 
That gives sufficient time for the issue of your printed BMFA membership card.
 
The temporary cards come as part of the Re-affiliation pack, which your club will have received at the beginning of December.
leccyflyer01/01/2011 14:52:38
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Posted by Martin Harris on 01/01/2011 14:45:09:
The insurance is normally valid from the time your club receives your renewal - however, I'm not certain whether the club itself needs to re-register (with at least 6 renewals) in order for this to apply?
My understanding is that each club needs to re-affiliate by returning at least five renewals by 16th January each year. The club is assumed to be affiliated for that two week period and the club committee insurance remains in place during that time.
 
The club acts as agent for members paying their BMFA subs through the club and this also ensures continuity of that relationship.
 
A temporary notice of the club's liability insurance is provided for that 2 week period, which is replaced by the permanent notice of insurance cover on the issuance of the first batch of member's renewal insurance and membership cards.
Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator01/01/2011 14:54:03
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Thanks Leccy - that answers that.
 
Its just that normally BMFA cards follow on pretty smartish after paying the club. But obviously with posting delays this year things have been held up. Good to know that I'm still insured though - thanks again. I sahll go flying tomorrow (hopefully - weather permiting) with a clear conscous.
 
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John Privett01/01/2011 14:59:24
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Posted by Martin Harris on 01/01/2011 14:45:09:
The insurance is normally valid from the time your club receives your renewal - however, I'm not certain whether the club itself needs to re-register (with at least 6 renewals) in order for this to apply?
 
The club has until the 16th January to get its re-affiliation form and first 5 members' renewals back to the BMFA.  Quite what happens if the club doesn't do this, I don't know!
 
As leccy has already said, the club acts as an agent for the BMFA.  The moment you hand over your BMFA membership money to a club official you're covered.  Clubs are "encouraged" to submit their renewals to the BMFA in batches on a monthly basis - but they must send them within 2 months of receiving them.
 
[And leccy and BEB posted further similar replies whilst I was typing!]

Edited By John Privett on 01/01/2011 15:11:24

Tim Morton01/01/2011 15:06:27
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I simply forgot until it was too late!!!
I wonder if personal indemnity insurance cover me - I have that through the company? 
Romeo Whisky01/01/2011 16:47:09
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I rang BMFA mid-December to chase it as I had received no reminder.  I was told they had all been sent out, but I renewed by phone at the same time anyway.
 
The reminder was delivered on 31st Dec !    Glad I remembered to chase it myself.  
So much for Royal Mail bulk posting systems!
James4001/01/2011 16:52:59
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I wonder why BMFA don't just make it a rolling contract, you would only need to contact them if you wished to cancel ?
David Ashby - Moderator01/01/2011 19:43:01
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Indeed, you'd have thought they might have adopted direct debits by now.  
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John Privett01/01/2011 22:53:14
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Eric,  if the GPO are involved then the problem is worse than we thought.  They (the GPO) were abolished in 1969 and replaced by the Post Office...
 
Big Bandit01/01/2011 23:09:22
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Posted by Eric Bray on 01/01/2011 22:47:06:
Don't mention the GPO to me! I'm still waiting for my chrissie present that is in their tender?? care!
(A little birdie told me that the GPO stuff all the backlog into a room, clear the new stuff first, and then start working backwards into the 'stores'.)
 Don't worry Eric, I got mine in February last year. .
 
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i12fly02/01/2011 01:21:41
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Just a point.
When someone pays BMFA through their club, yes they are covered for 2 months. The club sec needs to send the renewal in early enough to get a BMFA response before the 2 months is up otherwise you don't know if they've processed it or not. It can be 1 to 2 weeks by the time they respond. I usually send the stuff as 'signed for', its only about £1 extra and at least I know they've got it.
David Gilder04/01/2011 18:14:01
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I approached BMFA last year asking if they were looking into paying for insurance through online payment (debit/credit card or even paypal). They said that it ewas something they were looking into but alas, nothing yet!!!!
 
Come on BMFA. They must be the only place online where you cant pay online!!!!
Rant Over!!!!
i12fly04/01/2011 21:23:59
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Don't forget that by renewing through your club it helps support your club's affiliation and the necessary insurance for the organisers/committee.
I must give BMFA credit this year, I sent the first batch of club renewals off on 17 December and got the wadge back process today. Considering the post, weather, holidays etc I think they've done pretty well.

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