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Dean17/10/2011 22:44:51
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Hi all
As a sideline to my other post asking about Warbird kits I found that CAP kits from Anglia Model Centre do a 60" Stuka.
Having carried out a search on google there is not many positive comments about the kits the main thing seems to be that they are old style kits making them heavy.
Has anybody had any recent experience with these kits?
Would it be possible to try and build it as light as possible? ie using balsa instead of ply in low stress areas?
 
Thanks Dean
ken anderson.18/10/2011 09:29:43
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hello dean...dont know about the recent version of the CAP kits...but they have been going for a few years now and ...... i've built a few......unless they have changed i think you will find that they tend to be slightly over engineered...worth the money and normally decent flyers.....
 
 
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Bob Cotsford18/10/2011 11:19:36
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Dean, i've only got experience of one CAp kit, the Gladiator.
As Ken says, they are not lightweights, but I found them frustrating as regards the places they overspecified components, such as using carved block where planking would be better, spars that I thought too thin and the wrong grade, softish ply etc., etc.. This was an extremely old kit though, maybe '80s?
Tom Sharp 218/10/2011 18:47:47
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Posted by Bob Cotsford on 18/10/2011 11:19:36:
Dean, i've only got experience of one CAp kit, the Gladiator.
As Ken says, they are not lightweights, but I found them frustrating as regards the places they overspecified components, such as using carved block where planking would be better, spars that I thought too thin and the wrong grade, softish ply etc., etc.. This was an extremely old kit though, maybe '80s?

More like the 70's

Seamus O'Leprosy18/10/2011 19:50:50
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I built the skyraider ages ago and my memory is of balsa shavings every where but it flew well.
I have a CAP Dauntless and Swordfish in the to be built cupboard
Alan Cantwell18/10/2011 20:06:31
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i have flown lots of them, but built none, the stuka is quite aerobatic, it does suffer from a bit of dutch roll, i think that the one i flew had a tad too much dihedral, but, it flew well on an old HP61, the dauntless mentioned i simply LOVED, it was heavy as hell, but did not suffer because of it, i lost it when the cylinder head of the laser came loose, and jammed the valves, i gave the damaged wreck away, its still flying,
The swordfish is also excellant, but a pain in the but to rigg, it also needs oodles of nose weight, i turned up a stainless steel front end for the torpedo--sorted that problem out, old school, but good models,
Frank Skilbeck18/10/2011 20:27:53
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I bought the Jungmeister 20 years ago and started building it a couple of years ago (must get it finished), they are pretty old school and quite a build, but not bad VFM.

Not a lot of ply on this model, only the bulkhead and the formers where the upper wing cabane struts fit and undercarriage is secured. Rest of formers are all balsa and fuselage structure is all balsa stringers and planking.

Cowl is a pretty substantial fiberglass mouldling.
Dean21/10/2011 13:46:08
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Thanks for the input i was looking in perticular at building a stuka and they seemed to be the only place that made a kit after a lot of thought i have deceided to go the whole hog and build from plans!!
Although the CAP Fairy Swordfish looks fantastic, maybe one for the future!!
 
Dean
Rev.Dr. Richard Davis24/12/2013 20:51:44
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Hello.

I am looking for Complete A Pac kits and plans.

Cannot seem to locate any here in the USA

Would love to acquire a Gladiator and a Sordfish wither a kit or plans.

Thank you

Rev Dr Richard Davis

Tok Alaska USA

Pete B - Moderator24/12/2013 21:18:57
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Hi Richard,

Welcome to the forum! CAP kits have been out of production for some time but not infrequently they do surface on Ebay UK.

There is in fact a Tiger Moth on offer right now. Many UK sellers restrict their postage to the UK only but if you contact the seller when you find something that interests you, they may be prepared to make an exception.

I'd suggest that you set up a search on Ebay using terms such as CAP, Complete-a-Pac, etc and when a similar item is listed, you will get an email notification.

Equally, you could leave a wanted advertisement in the classified ads section here.

I'm sure if any forumites have any further info or suggestions, they'll be along soon...thumbs up

Pete

Bob Cotsford24/12/2013 21:50:04
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I'm pretty sure the plan rights are with Traplets, for the plans that the CAP kits were based on both the Gladiator and Swordfish appear to be the £18.99 versions. They also list a Gladiator by Brian Taylor, again at 56" span, which is highly rated and probably easier to get as a laser cut part kit.

Edited By Bob Cotsford on 24/12/2013 21:50:43

Rev.Dr. Richard Davis25/12/2013 00:28:08
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Thank you Pete and Bob

I will check this out.

This is a great site you folks are very nice to someone from across the Pond

I will try to figure out the Ebay from England.

Thank you

Happy Holidays

Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator25/12/2013 00:46:26
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Richard, www.ebay.co.uk should get you there.

We have a number of contributors from your side of the big water! smile

BEB

Rev.Dr. Richard Davis25/12/2013 04:25:04
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BEB

Thank you very much I will see if I can open a ebay account in England that way I can send the person with the Tiger Moth Kit a message and see if shipping by your Postal service is possible to Alaska.

Old Geezer25/12/2013 07:28:19
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Good morning Richard - completely off-topic but - Happy Christmas - from across The Pond.

weasel25/12/2013 21:56:23
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Hello Dean,
My friend Peter built one of the complete A pack Stuka. This build with pictures can be found if you search Build Blog & Kit Reviews Page 12, 11 down.
P.S the model fly's well fitted with a Magnum 60 the kit says a 40-to46 engine but due to the weight of the plane I think these would be slightly underpowered.....
Regards Weasel....wink 2

Rev.Dr. Richard Davis12/05/2014 21:48:56
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Just acquired a new Mosquito kit this looks to be newer than my other CAP kits as parts are bagged and the box is white.

I do not see a date on any of it.

I am also after the old Japanese kits from the 50s and early 60s KYO ,Eureka, and MK kits of the World War 2 aircraft.

If anyone has any of these ot a partial kit and or plans I am a interested buyer.

richard smith 930/03/2015 16:21:26
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Hello, I just joined and I just scored a C. A. P. P-47 about 61 inches WS, Kit partially assembled (a long time ago) at my clubs swap meet. I have the plans, although they are a bit fragile, but I am missing the control surfaces in the built up parts. It has Wing lead-screw retracts with shock absorbing gear legs, and a nice glass cowl. Also a retracting tail wheel gear, and nice pilot figure. Pictures to follow.

I plan to complete this model and fly it with a Saito 120 FS.

Can anyone tell me more about Complete A Pack and specifically their P-47?

Thanks you very much.

Sincerely, Richard

robert white 205/01/2016 11:29:22
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I also built a stuka and flew it on an os40 fsr and flew excellent in fact flew so well it didn't want to land glided for ever my friend flew one on a 60fsr was prone to ground looping
barry cloete27/01/2016 11:37:03
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CAP models are incredibly durable. I built a SE5a in the mid 1980s . I crashed it many many times and it is still flying as well as ever and still looks good.

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