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|David Ashby - Moderator||07/02/2012 08:59:20|
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Hope folks don't mind me asking - we were debating the merits of commissioning a 2011 issue index. It's something we've done for many years but we're not entirely sure who uses them, if anyone at all. Through the year, we receive virtually no enquiries from those seeking them.
Thoughts would be appreciated.
If anyone is wondering, the home pics/downloads area (click on the blue mouse icon) has the 2002-2010 indices.
Edited By David Ashby - RCME Admin on 07/02/2012 09:00:30
|Myron Beaumont||07/02/2012 10:23:55|
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I for one have used this faciliy on about three occasions since they started to find something and found it to be useful .A 2011 issue would help when looking back in the future as well .My huge collection of mags going back many years taking up a whole three shelf wall cupboard present quite a task when looking something up and the indexs (indices ?) really come into their own even though they are in numerical order'
Myron YO 13 organisational Dept
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Hi David....Yes i agree with Myron...I too have a lot of mags and even though they are in order the index is very useful for finding articles and plans.
|Andy Green||07/02/2012 10:52:12|
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I don't use the index, I just ask on the forum, so I geuss someone is using it to answer my queries.
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Hi David, I give old RCM&E mags to Claude, my neighbour....We both reckon they're much better than the French counterparts.........The index is a very useful tool, problem is that I for one didn't know about it.....
Maybe a wee bit of reader education would be a good idea
|Biggles' Elder Brother - Moderator||07/02/2012 11:18:56|
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I use it - a bit! To be honest I think its a potentially very valuable resource that is underused by all of us and I suspect the main reason for that is its extreme "low profile". If they were being entirely honest many would probably respond "What index - I didn't know we had one!"
I think we should keep it - but consider putting a perminant link to it in a prominent place, then promote it a bit! We know from threads on here that lots of folks have extensive collections of back-issues, but without an index frankly they are of limited value.
|Olly P||07/02/2012 11:56:11|
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I didn't know it existed.....and in conjunction with the electronic back issues is very handy - will favorite the link when i get home!
|Steve Houghton||07/02/2012 12:21:19|
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I'm sure it's just me, but how do I get into the index page other than through the link you just quoted? I can't find any of the tabs on the home page that will take me into the index or, indeed to the RCM&E digital archive.
Is it possible to have an 'RCM&E' tab on the home page?
I'm sure I would use the index if I could find it.
|Allan Bowker||07/02/2012 12:22:32|
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I have used it a few times, although I did wish that it was all together in one database instead of having to search through each year.
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I agree. I have even started to try to combine the index data from the various years into one spreadsheet, but because of the layout this is a non-trivial task. It is easy to remove the 2 columns, to save it as raw text, and I could easily use a clever text manipulation tools to convert it into a form suitable for a spreadsheet, but there are a lot of bits of 'helpful' layout that need tweaking by hand.
Do you, David, have this information in electronic readable form to save all the effort?
|John Laird||07/02/2012 13:06:18|
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Allan's concept is definitely a must in this age of communication and internet.
it then becomes an ongoing database which should easily be kept bang up to date each month - or is this too much to ask for ?
it will save me time scanning and computer filing the odd items I might need in the future but never seems to cover the actual items I end up needing
so save the money from compiling a yearly index and go for an online database instead, please
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That was a timely question I just went to the index page to look up a review from a 2011 issue (couldn't remember which one) and noted the 2011 index wasn't available yet.
As others have mentioned, in conjunction with the digital archive for subscribers, it's a great resource, particularly for newbies liked me. Using the index and digital archive together has saved me asking countless questions on the forums and I've learned a great deal. I even me!), although I confess there's so many I've not had time to read most of them.
Also agree that I would find a combined index file useful, as a single free text search could then scour all the archives at once.
@Steve Houghton, the link to the index is contained on the RCM&E Extra page, that you can access from the Home Page (Look for the computer mouse in the blue circle symbol).
|Steve Houghton||07/02/2012 13:41:20|
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Thanks, IanH. I was trying to find it through the red tabs at the top of the page.
I've long had a dream to have a complete index of all RCM&Es ever published. It's a huge undertaking, but if volunteers from the forum were to index a few issues each we'd soon be done.
|David Ashby - Moderator||07/02/2012 14:23:49|
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Thanks all, appreciate the feedback.
We usually get someone to go through the mags each year and produce a word doc, I hadn't thought about one large database. Food for thought.
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I didn`t realise it was there. But now I do I think its a great resource. As has been already mentioned it would be even better if it was searchable in its entirety and not just by year.
|graham kindberg1||07/02/2012 15:32:17|
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Yup, spiral bound and filed with the annual specials, up date it every year, and use it at least once a month. Rely on it!
|Martyn K||07/02/2012 22:12:03|
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I didn't know it existed. It would be even better if it was hyperlinked to the relative article in the Subscribers section.. but I guess that really is a dream due to the mix of technologies in use.
It could be useful, but the online version would suffice, a single index document rather than an index for each year would be better than having to search through 11 or 12 documents if you have no idea whether an article exists.
|Ian Jones||08/02/2012 00:47:51|
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Oh flip , I'd forgotten all about the index - the number of times I could have used it and haven't .
Worth having I think but needs to be more prominent if it's to be beneficial, in fact I'd forgotten about all those build articles too.
Not everything can go in the most obvious spot on the home page though can it?
|Roger in Dubai||08/02/2012 06:32:46|
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Have used many of them more than once when trying to locate reviews etc, very worthwhile and hopefully can continue in whatever form David decides.
|Doug Ireland||08/02/2012 07:31:05|
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|Must admit I'd forgotten it was there too.|
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